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    single laying eggs

    I have one of those less common birds that lays eggs even though she has no mate nor has she ever had a mate. It makes sense to me why a paired bird would lay eggs, but why does a single like mine do it?

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    Re: single laying eggs

    Single cockatiels very often lay eggs, it's just part of their nature i suppose... I mean, chickens lay eggs all the time, mate or not
    Make sure she has plenty of calcium (like cuttlefish) available, and leave the eggs with her untill she completely looses interest - otherwise she'll keep laying to replace the ones you take out...

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    Re: single laying eggs

    It's not less common.
    It's normal for a single hen to lay eggs.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    Trying to find it for ya... here is what I have that may be of use so far...

    www.aviannetwork.com/articles/eggs.htm

    This one is very good, it IS a PDF file, though.
    www.lansdown-vets.co.uk/p...0birds.pdf

    Basically, they state that the setting is usually right (long daylight hours [think artificial light, here], warm temperatures), there is lots of food available, and it is not uncommon for laying birds to see their owner/item as their mate.
    Well, that really condenses it... if you want to read those links, they will help clarify .

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    Re: single laying eggs

    That is as close as I have been able to find.
    The conditions are "perfect" for breeding, so even though she is lacking a male, she will aly teh eggs.
    :/

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    : s: I really don't like the egg laying. When mine lays eggs her clutch is 10-12 eggs. So she is crabby for a long time!

    I thought egg laying was more rare in cockatiels when they don't have mates! I guess I learned something. I remember when she laid her first egg. It was so unexpected to me I thought she was huddled at the bottom of her cage because she was going to die! I felt stupid afterwards but what a relief.

    I've only been reading up on budgies, mating and babies because I want to have wee ones, but I have never read up on cockatiels laying eggs. I shall check out the link. She has the cuttle bone and the pink fruity block too.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    LOL at least u didn't think males could lay eggs.i had my cockatiel for the longest time adn thought was a he till one day my brother goes come here your cockatiel laid an egg i thought he was playing trick tilll one day i walked and actually saw her have an egg.LOL

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    Re: single laying eggs

    How often does she lay this many eggs!?? that's alot of eggs, and laying that many too often can get really bad for her... read this link for tips; pub98.ezboard.com/fthecockatielstopsmessageboardfrm40.showMessage?to picID=13.topic
    if she's laying more than twice a year something needs to be done to stop her egg laying... laying too much will run the risk of her having comlecations and dieing! i think there's some hormone injection or something as a last resort....? try the ideas in that link though too. good luck!

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    Re: single laying eggs

    She has laid her clutches twice. I have been thinking about how to stop her. I actually don't think we have avian vets here. I keep asking my breeder about her (I got her from a couple that owns a bird rescue and breeds parrots and occasionally smaller birds like mine) but they say its not so many that I should worry.

    I've already done most of what that link (the first one) said. She has slowed laying. I am going to try moving her cage around the house and changing her environment to maybe surprise her.

    I have been covering her cage early and only leaving a dim lamp on for my other birds.

    I will check around more for an avian vet and ask them about it to be safe.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    The breeder, to be blunt, is an idiot for saying that.

    Normal clutch size is 5-8 eggs. 10-12 is getting up there, and if she's laying clutches like that frequently, she could end up in serious trouble.

    It IS normal for a single hen to lay eggs, some lay like clockwork, some lay every now and then, and some never lay.
    Since you have a female, egg laying and all the hormonal goodness that goes along with it, is just someting you're going to have to learn to deal with.

    Excessive laying however, or laying HUGE clutches can be deadly.

    From my Bird FAQ:
    Do you let her keep the eggs to sit on?
    If not, you need to.
    Taking them away will only make her lay more, and can kill her.
    Egg laying seriously depeletes calcium levels in a hen's body.
    Low calcium can lead to:

    Softshelled eggs - fatal if bits of the shell or egg remain inside of her. The bits that remain inside can cause system-wide infections that can kill within hours. Many times the bird dies very suddenly with little or no warning.

    Eggbinding - when an egg gets stuck inside. Always fatal if not treated, sometimes fatal even if treated. Egg binding is extremely painful for a hen.

    Brittle bones - can easily be fatal, can also lead to very serious (and crippling) injuries

    Seizures - can be fatal or crippling

    It's normal for a hen to lay eggs without another bird around. It's also normal for her to be aggressive; she does not know these eggs will not hatch, and will protect them like any good mother shoud.

    So, here's what you need to do. The steps in bold are the most important:

    1) Let her sit on the eggs. She will abandon them in a few weeks when she realizes they won't hatch. The ONLY reason to take them away before she abandons is if they become cracked or broken.

    2) Make sure she has extra calcium in her diet. Do NOT offer grit, she will likely gorge on it and cause a crop impaction which is fatal 98% of the time & requires surgery to fix.
    Offer her instead a bowl of crushed egg shells & as an added safeguard, try a product called Calci-boost in her water.
    This is especially important if she's on a very poor (seed only) diet.


    3) Rearrange her cage. Move around the perches, toys & food/water bowls. Take out any toys that may be viewed as a 'nest' (happy hut type toys) & take out any toys that she may be overly attached to or view as a mate. Remove any mirrors permanently.

    4) Cut her daylight back to 4 hours per day for at least two weeks. This means that after 4 hours of "day", she needs to be put in a dark, quiet room and covered with a dark, opaque cloth until the next day when it's "morning" for 4 hours again. This simulates short days & long nights, which to her body translates "It's not breeding season." This will help calm her hormones and break the laying cycle.

    5) Cut back high protien foods in her diet, such as eggfood. This can stimulate breeding behavior.

    6) Cut back on showers; this can stimulate breeding behavior.

    7) Do not pet her between her wings; this is a sexual stimulant for hens.

    If the above steps don't help, and she is continually laying eggs with little or no pauses in the cycle (give it at least two weeks), talk to a vet about hormone shots...and if those don't help, the dead last resort is a spay.
    Birds can be spayed and neutered, but it's highly dangerous and requires an avian specialist who's done it before.
    Spaying should only be done after all other methods of attempting to stop chronic laying fail.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    I will cut her light level more. Everyone told me and everything I read so far says to cut to 10 hours. I will cut it far more. I will leave her covered all night and during the day till I come home, then uncover her then.

    So far today I have moved her cage around to places she usually doesn't get to go and her attitude has changed.

    I've let her have all her eggs when she lays them and leave them there waaaay after she has lost interest just in case.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    for the "nights" should that be covered or completely dark?

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    Re: single laying eggs

    For the nights she needs to be in a dark, quiet room (a spare bedroom, closet, or bathroom works for this), away from the other birds (they will keep her awake), and covered with a dark cloth.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    Got it.

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    Re: single laying eggs

    Yesterday when I covered my cockatiel back up after her 4 hours she was steaming mad about it.

    I have a question... assuming this covering works. After the two weeks, how do I get her to accept normal amounts of light again without her wanting to lay eggs?

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