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    Lightbulb help with "homemade" cage plans

    Anybody know where I can find "homemade" CAGE plans?

    I love the help and ideas for toys, treats, etc., but I really want to build a cage or cage system for my 'tiels. I would appreciate any help.

    Please PM me if you would like...but there may be others who would like this type of information as well as me...especially if they are DIYers like me...

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Very few people have made indoor cages properly for their birds, mostly because DIY-ers need wood as a base and for birds, wood just isn't appropriate. Unless you are a welder and can use stainless steel, I would forgo the DIY and buy a good, solid cage. There have been a few people who HAVE done it but have written later that with the cost of supplies and the labour, it would have been cheaper and easier to buy one.

    Any particular reason you want to build one?

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    Smile Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Call me a control freak...

    I wanna design a cage or cage system or aviary from my own ideas...

    I just wanted ideas from anyone who had done it
    ...materials to use (besides wood)
    ...where to purchase them
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    I have four 'tiels...

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    I was going to build my own cage when I first got into birds, but after doing my research I found that the cost of all the materials you need in order to have a safe cage for your birds would cost way more than it would to actually just buy one. So I gave in and bought one. :P

    Wood isn't great because birds will chew the wood. If it's outside it can attract insects and mites that could harm the wood or your birds. Even if it is inside it can still attract mites.

    Chicken wire is hard on birds' feet and if you do end up using it anyway you need to get the proper wire spacing, which is expensive. Not to mention you can't get anything galvanized as it's very toxic to birds (as well as zinc, copper etc.). If you decide to make one in the end you'll need something called "stainless steel mesh", but you'll need to be aware of wire size.

    Spacing on the corners and sides where everything joins needs to be tightly welded together so that toes and other parts don't get stuck. When it comes to welding..a lot of the welding bars contain metals that are also toxic to birds.

    There's probably more, but I think I've said the basics. For me, it was way more trouble than it was worth.

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    This thread could really use some visuals of home made cages!

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Boy, do I feel like the "odd (wo)man" out...everybody is from Canada. hmmm?

    I know about not using galvanized wire or zinc which is used for most chicken wire/hardware cloth, as well as quick links, etc. And somehow I knew wood could be a problem... could it be because mine love to chew?!? hehe

    Anyway, I was just hoping someone had seen, or used, or heard about something that is safe to use.

    I wanted ideas...information... I'm all about learning!

    If anybody happens to come across pics...be sure to send links...

    Thank you!
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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Duno anything bout homemade cages.. But not everyone is from Canada. There are a bunch of other ppl from all over the world here. ^_^

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Melody, I know not everyone is from Canada...it was just kinda weird that all my replies in the first day were from there. Dunno, right timing with regard to time zones... whatever.

    Angel-Iris...I could kiss you! I had been considering PVC, and various other materials... Thanx for the links!!! GREAT ideas, especially in the first one... Others give me ideas too, just not as good as the first one.

    Thanx to everyone for replying. I appreciate the info and the advice and everything.
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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    ewww don't get so mushy lol Just kidding glad i could help!!

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Sorry I got soooo mushy... hehe

    Hey, I got great ideas...then I got iced-up...
    no electricity so no surfin'...darn!

    Back to surfin' now... oh what fun!!!

    Take care all, thanx for the info and ideas...

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    perhaps you could look at some homemade aviary pictures, and somehow slightly make it so its indoor.
    If i were you though i would just buy a cage, they last longer than wood(which most people use for aviarys and stuff.)

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Thanks Angel Iris..interesting links

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    yw hmm i might have my dad make me a 3 stack cage any ideas???

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    new to birds and just courious why would wood be not a good idea to use to build a cage? They would chew through it?

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    It can also harbour mites and other parasites.

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Extremely difficult to clean because it won't dry quickly allowing bacteria to grow. Fecal material and food can just seep into the wood BEFORE you even get to cleaning. Any disinfectant used would also seep into the wood creating problems with ingestion of disinfectants. lots and lots of reasons why wood shouldn't be used.

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    good to know. thanks.

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Quote Originally Posted by peachee View Post
    Extremely difficult to clean because it won't dry quickly allowing bacteria to grow. Fecal material and food can just seep into the wood BEFORE you even get to cleaning. Any disinfectant used would also seep into the wood creating problems with ingestion of disinfectants. lots and lots of reasons why wood shouldn't be used.
    How does this affect play gyms and other wooden perching places?

    I.e. - should I stop with the wooden gym tree and go to plastic and metal?
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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    so wood playgyms that they sell for them are a no-no? I was thinking about makeing my own out of pvc anyway.

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    AW: help with "homemade" cage plans

    I (ok, my boyfriend) built an aviary for my tiels. He built one to have inside and I bulit on where they can stay outside.
    We used wood and it works just great. It is no problem to clean, but you should't use much water. I just scratch the droppings of the wood (with a sharp knife).
    Here are some pics:

    This is how I built the aviary outside, step by step. It's standing on our balcony and the birds can go outside whenever they like.
    It is about 2 metres long and high, 80cm deep (6,56 foot long and high, 2,62feet deep)







    now it's ready



    photo is taken from inside



    Our aviary inside is mady out of the same wood, and looks similar. It is almost the same size, but the doors are open all day long!

    on the right side you can see the aviary inside and a hanging playground



    hope I could help a bit

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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    So are wood perches a bad idea?
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    Re: help with "homemade" cage plans

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMissy491 View Post
    So are wood perches a bad idea?
    I use wood perches for a little while and then swap them out for new ones pretty frequently. That gives me the opportunity to also rearrange the design of the age and keep my birds mentally stimualted. I rarely buy perches at the store unless it's the cement variety because then I'd be compelled to wash them. Free branches work for me!

    I have a PVC gym. I just use wood for toys and if they poop on a piece, I chuck that one piece. It's so porous that it's not the best material for bird stuff. If you can protect it by placing it in a poop free zone, it lasts a lot longer.

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