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    I just purchased my first parrot yesterday. He's a Blue Headed Pionus. We also own a Tangering Ring Necked Dove. In my search over the internet for all kinds of information, I came across a web site for a bird training system. I don't know if it's worth the money to buy it or not. Has anyone ever heard of Chet Womach? His site is called birdtricks.com What do you know about him? Does his system and tactics really work???

    I really want to establish a great relationship with my bird and also train him to behave.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Training

    Most people on this site will agree this site is a rip-off - particularly a member named Beeks, hehe. I would avoid it.

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    I would also avoid it - mind you I have never heard of it, nor tried it myself. I think good 'ol patience and consistency can do the trick (no pun intended ).

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    Thanks! I wasn't sure if what he was saying about just being nice to the bird was not enough. He was saying that eventually the bird will develop biting and other aggressive habits, even if you had a good relationship before that.

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    Hi Dawn, I have the bird traing Cd's from Birdtricks.com, actually just ordered their speech training as well. We bought our first cockatiel a few weeks ago and were very eager to do things right. When the training CD's and video arrived we started training Kikki tricks. Kikki can now do the wave, nod yes, and is starting to turn around using a hand signal. Unless you've owned birds before and trained them, the Cd's are worth trying out. Gives great advise for those of us that don't have a clue......
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    Sabina-Thanks for the advice! From reading and the videos, it looks like his tactics work well, but you never know with stuff like this. I really wanted some real world opinions,

    That's amazing that Kikki can do all those things! I really want to teach Ozzy some cool stuff, too!

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    Seriously! Do not waste your money! Chet is a scam look here: http://www.scamclub.com/reports/Chet...mach-1486.html Sure they rebutt the claims, but it sets off warning bells for me. Why sign on for a costly program that they learned from the same inexpensiove books you can buy? And I do not agree with the dominance/scare methods they use.
    Tani Robar has been training parrots for years. Her books are affordable, easy to follow and get results. Parrot Tricks: Teaching Parrots with Positive Reinforcement by Tani Robar <-- Click

    Chet trains on the basis of dominating over the animal. So not true with parrots. Do not waste your money.The wave, etc are very simple tricks, and have been taught in Birdtalk magazine. By the way he sells Training CDs for dogs now too. It is a money making scheme period.
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    My sis bought the book, copied it and returned it. I read the book mostly and did not like it. She tried the techniques with the Senegal I gave her and it has not worked. I don't like the guy and don't like his methods.
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    Thanks, guys! It seems like way more people don't like him than do! I am NOT going to buy his stuff. I ordered a couple books. One on general parrot care and another about training. I'm waiting for them to be delivered.

    Merlinsmom-Thank you so much for the info! I am going to check out both links! I definitely do not want to train with dominance. I want him to obey me because it's fun and he loves me.


    Another question..is BirdTalk magazine worth the money for the subscription? I have heard some people talk about it and was wondering if it's a really good publication.

    Thanks again!

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    Yes, I have subscribed to Birdtalk for 5+ years. It was questionable a couple years back, some info was a little outdated, but now they seem to have some really great contributers and editors, the info is very good, and I feel confident recommending the magazine.

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    Re: Training

    Great! Thanks!

    I have ordered "Parrot Training: A Guide to Taming and Gentling Your Avian Companion (Pets)"
    Bonnie Munro Doane; Paperback and "The Parrot Companion: Caring for Parrots, Macaws, Budgies, Cockatiels and More"
    Rosemary Low; Paperback from Amazon. I looked at the link to the book you rec. and I think I'm going to order that one, too. It looks like a really great book!

    I am also going to subscribe to BirdTalk.

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    Re: Training

    Enjoy!
    Any books by Mattie Sue Athan or Barbara Heidenreich are very good too.
    Guide To a Well-Behaved Parrot and Guide to Companion Parrot Behaviour both by Mattie Sue Athan are two I like.....there are many. Learning why parrots do what they do is number one in living with and loving parrots. Tricks can have a place, but letting the parrot be a parrot is key.

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    Re: Training

    I totally agree. Tricks are fun and will help keep him stimulated, but I really want a clsoe bond with him and to enjoy him being what he is..a parrot!

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    If you haven't already heard of this Enrichment ebook, check it out! Many great foraging ideas to stimulate our fid's minds.
    Oh, and it is FREE!!!

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    Wow! That ebook is amazing! Tons of great info!

    Who knew about phone books??? I wonder, though....I read that someone lost their bird because it ate colored ink. Could that be an issue with a phone book? Some of the ads and pages are colored?

    I have a couple toys in his cage, but I am going to head to the pet store and find some different ones. I spend a lot of time at the pet store!!! LOL

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    Most books, papers, etc that are printed on pulp paper use soy based inks. I would remove any "yellow page" ad pages with a lot of colour. Shiny paper like magazines, catalogs, etc are not safe.
    It was pointed out in that thread about the parrot eating the magazines, that it is probably not what killed him. It would have taken more paper than it was possible for him to eat in a sitting, or would have had to be eating magazines daily.
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    Ok, that makes sense.

    It's reassuring to know that he would have to eat a lot of a certain kind of paper to make him sick or kill him. I won't freak out oo badly if he gets hold of a little something. LOL I want him to be around for a long long time so I am doing all I can to provide him with a healthy and safe home!

    Thanks!

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    Yes, we must be cautious, but not paranoid. LOL Now if your bird swallows a chunk of metal, a coin, fishing sinker, etc, be VERY worried. Vet asap.
    Also, salt, caffeine, chocolate, avocado, are not safe. Here is a good website listing the worst toxins to worry about, not only when ingested, but in the area, or air. Safe plants and trees are listed there too.

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    I know about the ones you listed. What is it about avocado that is not safe....I'm curious about that.

    Going to check out the link now.....

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    Re: Training

    Ugh..I keep getting error messages. One when I click on your link and another when I try to go plannedparrothood directly......

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    Hmm, it is working for me, and it is a very good, safe site. So no worries there I assure you. Keep trying it.

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    I'll keep trying.

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    Re: Training

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    Ugh..I keep getting error messages. One when I click on your link and another when I try to go plannedparrothood directly......
    I had to read, re read, and read again a 3rd time! LOL. That website looks like it has a lot of good information. But the name????? Well, I guess it is hard to forget!

    I just downloaded the Enrichment ebook, and can't wait to read it.

    (oops - edit) I agree that Chet is.......... one to ignore.
    Proud owner of two tiels (Peachie and Spice) and two keets (Levi and Aqua)! :

    I now has pics! Check out my album! I am just a little slow at figuring this place out.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachies Girl View Post
    I had to read, re read, and read again a 3rd time! LOL. That website looks like it has a lot of good information. But the name????? Well, I guess it is hard to forget!

    I just downloaded the Enrichment ebook, and can't wait to read it.


    I know! I thought she linked me to the wrong thing at first! LOL It took me a few seconds, too! Very clever name, I think!

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    Re: Training

    Congrats on y our new baby! I like anything by Sally Blanchard or Mattie Sue Athan. Also, Birds for Dummies is a great beginner book as well!

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