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    Sex and mutation

    Hi all,

    After posting my tiel pic in the female section there were comments that my bird was male not female and that she was pied. I thought i would post some more pics here as i am very curious to see what you all think about her or him I got her last weekend from a pet shop and the guy that served me said she was about 8/9 months old and she was female and grey/cinnamon.

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    I wish I could help. I"m just posting to subscribe to the thread, in hopes of learning something myself.
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    It is a male SPLIT Pied. Does appear to be around a year old, Handsome fellow!
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    Cheryl, are you confirming that it's a male?
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Well, it looks like a boy to me...
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Quote Originally Posted by ellenant View Post
    Well, it looks like a boy to me...
    Very scientific.
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    The phenotype makes the impression as if this
    Nymphicus hollandicus possesses two X chromosomes
    (=male in birds).
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    Yes! :d
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Your bird is a Male light Pied. The Pied toenails and yellow underbelly usually points to the bird being light pied, not split. 9-12 months old.

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    Hiya <3

    I think you have a male there... =) I only go by the Face colour... I have been told that really bright cheeks and yellow head makes it a male, and yours does have rather bright cheeks and a Yellow head xD I am not 100% sure though... I'm still learning, so I could be wrong xD

    The only other way I can tell is if he/she is rather chatty hehe As far as I know, the Males are alot more talkative then the Females, and I own a female as well, and she hardly every whistles, as opposed to my new little one who I think is a male, only because he has the Yellow Face, and the bright cheeks, as well as he is sooo chatty xD

    Again, I am not 100% sure, I am just going by what I know hehe

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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarin View Post
    Your bird is a Male light Pied. The Pied toenails and yellow underbelly usually points to the bird being light pied, not split. 9-12 months old.
    Oh, coolio! I might have to post some pics of my roomie's tiels because "Buddy" seems to act like a female.
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    Re: Sex and mutation

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    Well im glad i didnt name him princess
    Ive had him for nearlly a week now and he has been so quiet, just a little chirp here and there, until last night!!!
    Out of nowhere he streched his little neck up and spread his wings out and just started singing... and singing... and more singing, swaying his head back and forth! It sounded like he was mimicking other bird sounds mixed with a bit of a tune. It was quite a show Im still waiting eagerly for the next.
    Correct me if im wrong but females dont usually display that kind of behaviour? Oh and he eats like a young male too, the little messy pig he is
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    The vocal-ness, if you will, is a male trait.
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Do females have color at all, or are they just grey?
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    Re: Sex and mutation

    Depends on the mutation, Natalia. A regular grey female has some colour, just not as much as a male. She still has some yellow on her face and the orange cheeks, but they're paler and there's less yellow. She also has yellow barred tailfeathers underneath. A male loses this barring, a female does not.

    Holly is my female tiel (and mainly grey, though probably a split pied), and you can see how colourful she is here:



    A lot paler in the face than a male! That said, it does depend on the mutation. The other mutations (not grey tiels, but pied or pearl or one of the many, many others) can be trickier to sex by colouring alone, sometimes impossible.

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