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    What is biting us?

    Hello all, my husband and I are being bitten to death! Something we can't see and we think it only started after we got the birds. The bugs seem to live in our bed and in hubbys dressing gown and only bite in the summer. Round, itchy like mad marks.

    The birds seem unbothered!

    Any ideas if it could be related to the birds?
    Any ideas on what kind of bug bomb fogger would be ok to use with the birds? We would use it in our bedroom and not downstairs and take all precautions, but it would be even better if it was harmless to birds (and spiders too, cos I don't want to kill all my spiders!)

    Any thoughts welcome
    Itchy Tracy

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    Re: What is biting us?

    You dont have any mosquitos around?
    Would be the easiest solution.
    They are sometimes pretty good in hiding.


    Have you checked for bed bugs?
    They only come out at night and run away when they see light.
    They hide in cracks around the bed, under and IN the madresses
    and they also like to sit in clothes.
    You normally get them with buying second hand furniture
    or traveling and having them sneaking into your luggage.
    Their bite is very characteristic--
    they bite TWICE, so there are two bites next to each other.
    Method to see them:
    wake up at 3am at night, quickly turn the light on, check if they
    are around on the walls around the bed.
    If they are there, you will be astonished:
    they are BIG (up to 1cm) and red.
    Yes, they prefer warm temperatures and normally prefer
    central heated buildings.
    If it is bed bugs, it wont be connected to the birds.
    (if you ask why I know so much about them--
    I was living in a student hall for ages... )

    There is another possibility--
    bird mites.
    They also come out at night and hide from light.
    They are bright red.
    And small.

    Do you have any feral pigeons nesting in/around your house?
    It is them normally introducing them.

    problem with all the chemicals against these bugs--
    it is pure poison, for you AND the birds.
    If you have a problem with bugs and a real infestation,
    I would recommend consulting a specialist,
    and not randomly apply different bug killers, because
    this can seriously affect your health and the health of your birds!
    "There must have been a moment, at the beginning, where we could have said- NO. But somehow we missed it." (Samuel Beckett)


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    Re: What is biting us?

    bed bugs SUCK. and they scare you half to death when you realise how many there are, how big they are and why you didnt see them during the day.


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    Re: What is biting us?

    We caught them in a glass and they are amazing.
    They did survive in the closed glass for several weeks!
    We used them to scare people with showing them.
    Bugger is, this only works with non-vet people,
    vet people go like:
    "Cool, whats that?"
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    Re: What is biting us?

    "they havent been fed in weeks. put your finger in" lol


    "im now under the impression that sarcasm is the body's natural defence against stupid" - sam

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    Re: What is biting us?

    Well, I think they might be nice pets...
    and very prolific.

    Hey, I once read in the exotic animal magazine
    about this guy and his PET leech.
    He really fed it every month or so from his arm
    and talked about how cute the leech was and
    what a loving relationship he had with it...
    "There must have been a moment, at the beginning, where we could have said- NO. But somehow we missed it." (Samuel Beckett)


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    Re: What is biting us?

    Thank you so much for such gross advice! I don't think its bed bugs, we have taken the bed apart, not much to the wooden frame, so no where to hide and we don't have the 2 bites together thing either. We get bit when the lights are on too, and still can't see what it is!
    thanks for the warning about the poison thing, we really really don't want to use anything, but are running out of ideas!

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    Re: What is biting us?

    i would tell you sence you have then in a jar to contact your nearest college with an entomology department (i dont know how to spell it ) They should be able to identify them with ease with little or no charge. After you know what kind of bug it is then you find out how to get rid of them.

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    Re: What is biting us?

    Hmm.. do you have any furry friends?

    I know it could possibly be fleas. When our Whippet had fleas surprisingly enough, we would get bit more than the dog or cats.

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    Re: What is biting us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles View Post
    Hmm.. do you have any furry friends?

    I know it could possibly be fleas. When our Whippet had fleas surprisingly enough, we would get bit more than the dog or cats.
    That was going to be my suggestion...if they are fleas, good luck. They're a real PITA to get rid of. One of the best things you can do is use Advantage on your furry friends.

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    Re: What is biting us?

    No, I don't have any in a jar, we can't see what it is biting us! I know it is not mossies, not fleas (had those before when we had dogs) not likely to be bed bugs. We think we have had them since we have had the birds, but the birds don't seem to have anything bugging them. Well, I guess we will try looking in the pet shop for some mite powder and try covering the mattress in it to see what that does!
    Thanks all!
    Tracy

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    Re: What is biting us?

    Fleas usually present themselves at some point, it would be odd if you never saw them.

    We have tiny insects called "no-see-ums" that bite and are impossible to see (thus their clever nickname )

    They're annoying and they bite pretty hard. They're so small they can come right through the tiny holes in window screens so they're hard to keep away. Not sure how common they are in your area but they do seem to be nighttime biters.

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    Re: What is biting us?

    If I was you I would not cover my matress in mite powder
    to see what it does.... it will certainly affect your health!
    Well, I still think the bed bugs are no bad guess, because
    before we found out what was biting us in the student hall
    we had EXACTLY the same story. Yes, we were even bitten
    at daytime IN OUR CLOTHES and the darn buggers are so
    quick, we could not see what was biting us! We also disassembled
    the bed and didnt see these buggers.
    They are so thin, they can hide in every crack, the only thing you might see
    are little brown spots (their poop consisting of your blood).
    Well´, we were a group of vet students, who needed 2 weeks (!!!)
    to find the culprids, catch them and have them slowly starving
    in a glass jar as a proof.
    The professional bug hunter came in the end to kill them...

    If you dont have any suspicious pigeon nests and possibility
    for bird mite transmission (and you said your birds are alright,
    no rash, feather loss, ....???), it is unlikely to be bird mites.
    Would be strange for bird mites to only go on humans and
    ignore the birds.
    I think it is very unlikely to be mammal mites.
    Mites are normally living in and under your skin,
    they are mining under your skin and cause a rash.
    The only ones that bite as such are Cheyletiella mites,
    and they normally sit on rabbits (as in transmitting pets).
    Do you have any rabbits by chance?
    Finding Cheyletiella mites on pets is relatively easy--
    you put several pieces of sticky tape on the fur of the pet
    over night (on places where the animal can not get
    rid of the sticky tape) and check the next day.
    These mites crawl around on the fur and get caught
    on the sticky tape.
    I dont think it is fleas, even when they can jump pretty
    fast and far, they can be easyly seen when sucking.
    Fleas are not as secretive and good in hiding as are bed bugs.
    I am pretty sure you would have seen fleas by now!

    In conclusion--
    I dont think it is mites.
    So I think the covering everything in mite powder might be
    a waste of time and money, especially after most of pests
    that cause such an infestation are resistant to stuff they
    sell in pet shops and really require a specialist.

    Oh--
    I just have an idea---
    would it be possible to post a few pictures of your
    bites and show them to me? Maybe I get an idea.
    "There must have been a moment, at the beginning, where we could have said- NO. But somehow we missed it." (Samuel Beckett)


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    Re: What is biting us?

    we have no-see-ums in australia but we call them midgies and man they are a pain! mozzie bites are nothing on these little terrors! they feel like a green ant bite and wow do you get some nice welts off them!! itch like mad too, makes you want to tear your skin off. worst thing about them is that theyre all over the place day and night during the warm months.


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    Re: What is biting us?

    I am sorry i thought you had them in a jar. oops . well insted of might powder try a dust might or allergy case for you bed, they ones that cover the matris and zip on are the best. i would also get the ones for your pillows too. dont forget your boxsprings!!!! after you have sealed your bed wash all your bed linnes and other washables (curtens, blankets ect...) I would dust the carpet under your bed with a product called Roach Proof, it is basicly boric acid (borax) it will dry up any bugs that get into it. you can also dust your carpet and other non washables (soft furniture, sofa, chairs, ect...) with it and let it set for 24 hours then vacume it up with all the dead bug bodies. Just dont let your bird get in to the roach proof while you have it out. If you acidently injest a small amout it will not make people sick, but if you injest a large amount it will make people sick.(dont use it as a substatue for powder sugar) Also if you have any open places in the walls (electrical outlets with out face plates or holes) or places where flooring is comeing up make sure you leave some roach proof in the holes.

    I have used this stuff for years even around infants, toddlers, dogs cats and birds. just keep the animals and kids from licking the carpet for awhile after you vacuem it up just in case you did not get it all up. I even got all the roches, fleas, bed bugs, ticks, and mites out of a brown stone building once when i was living in boston. and all i used was roach proof!!!! Good luck and i hope you get the bugs. If you do see any dead or alive then you can take them to get ID at your local college or university. once again sorry about the confusion, and good luck

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