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    Swollen feet

    I was hoping to get some advice for me reguarding Rockers. I took her to the vet a couple months ago because she was egg laying and looking rather off. My vet told me nothing was wrong with her and all she needed was to gain some weight. She has gained some and is eating avi cakes with gusto and seed(yuck) but I've noticed in the last few day her feet are swollen. Not hugely so, but it's noticeable.
    Anybody have anything similar happen to one of their birds?

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    Re: Swollen feet

    Here are pictures:
    top is normal (taken a few months ago) and bottom is just taken.

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    Re: Swollen feet

    ooooh poor thing!
    are they both like that or could she have hurt it somehow?


    Thanks Lee for the adorable sig!

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    Re: Swollen feet

    It could be Gout...and gout sometimes causes weight loss. Uric acid crystals build up in the joints and it becomes very painful, the joints swell and the bird will usually perch with one foot or stand on the ground. Has he been doing this lately?

    If he does have gout your veterinarian will give him some allopurinol and the bird will be placed on a low protein diet. He should be ok.

    But that swelling could be due to an injury as well, maybe the foot got caught in the bars? To me it sounds and looks like gout though....

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    Re: Swollen feet

    They are both like that. It's the oddest thing, neither is red or irritated looking other then the fact that they are "poofy".

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    Re: Swollen feet

    I was actually thinking of gout too. I've seen wild birds with it before. The weight loss happen month before this though. I have noticed that when she does stand on one foot she doen't close the lifted foor liek she normally does.

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    Re: Swollen feet

    Ok I found this

    Symptoms of Gout

    The general symptoms noticed among the lovebirds with gout are-

    General swelling of the foot Yes
    Bumps on the feet NO
    Change in temperament NO
    Abnormal droppings NO
    Lethargic definatly a NO
    Decreased appetite NO

    Her diet like I said consists of seed and avi cakes, both of which are about 12%-13% protein, so well below the 'hazard' range. She is just as nutters as ever and her poop is fine, she is looking rather worn but she going through a molt.

    THIS BIRD WILL BE THE DEATH OF ME I SWEAR! Good thing I love the little nutball viking beast.

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    Re: Swollen feet

    Check the foods he is getting, could just be water retention. Lower his sodium intake.
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    Re: Swollen feet

    Well she eats a seed mix and avi cakes and that's about it. The avi cakes have salt in them but it doesn't list how much or what percent. So I could remove them from her diet, but them she would only be eating seed. She doen't seem to be drinking more then usual but then again it's hard to say. Her poops are normal......

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    Re: Swollen feet

    I would remove the avicakes from the diet and give it 3 days to see if the swelling goes down. If it gets at all worse, off to the vets.

    It's okay to do just seed for a while. The avi-cakes aren't exactly ideal either. Try some zupreem pellets, most birds will eat that no problem.
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    Re: Swollen feet

    I would bring her back to the veterinarian's...

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    Re: Swollen feet

    Brandon I think I will try that and see if it helps. If not then I will take her to the university before the end of the week. I don't want to panic and rush her off to the vet. But if she shows any other symptoms in the mean time I will take her.

    As for the avi cakes Dr Lafaber(he was at the CPC) claims that they are nutritionally complete and you could feed them as an exclusive diet but he does own the company. So I take it with a grain of salt (no pun intended) but Rockers othewise won't eat anything other seed EVER. I've tried every freaking method and trick in the book and she still wont touch pellets on their own. And I've tried ALL the brands out there including zupreem, harrisons, roudy bush and so on. She throws them out and screams for seed.

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    Re: Swollen feet

    I don't believe that any of Lafeber's stuff is complete. Even their nutriberries say that they can be given as an exclusive diet.

    A seed diet isn't the end of the world. Many tiels live to a ripe old age on nothing but seed. You can always try supplementing with cooked foods and such as time goes on.
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    Re: Swollen feet

    She won't eat cooked food either
    And I know seed inst the end of the world (my seed only budgie is 19) but still I would like her to accept a little variety once and a while.

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    Re: Swollen feet

    Yeah, I know what you mean.

    Wow, 19!
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