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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I don't really like the idea - too easy for people to rely on us, who are not vets, and are not always online, than to just do the right thing and go to a vet. The only posts I can foresee happening are those of someone popping on with an emergency, and the posters replying with the same thing - go to a vet.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    My position is that a vet is only available in the capital city, 7hrs drive away. I am quite happy to go to the other forum for help if I need it if people here don't want it. It IS something that some people need but yes is catered for somewhere else.

    Just a pity, as far as I am concerned that my favourite forum doesn't have it, but no biggy.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    Hi didee, I know what you mean, and after you are in Oz,
    I can understand that there is not a vet hiding behind
    every bush.

    But I will give you an example of advice I see very often
    on here--
    somebody asks about his/her bird scratching or plugging,
    and he/she suspects mites and/or lice, and the next
    advice you get is spray the bird with some insecticide.
    The stuff is poison and should only be applied after a diagnosis.
    same with some "natural" remedies...
    for example-- tea tree oil is POISONOUS for animals.

    I see a danger here.
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    Re: An Emergency thread

    Right, and all my position is that we don't replace a vet - if your bird were to get seriously hurt, for instance, if it burned itself, any advice we give would not to diddly squat. Your bird would need medical attention - even if it happens to be 7 hours away. I'm afraid that if people post questions on an emergency forum, and someone gives advice, they'll take that advice as good, and not go to a vet then.

    I'm not saying you would - I'm saying people in general, as this is a public forum.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I agree that that could very well be the case, however it would be a help in general first aid care. It is always the person's responsibility whether to take advice or not. The forum itself would not be at fault at all. As I said though, no biggy as it is available elsewhere.

    I will shut up now, lol. I do understand both sides of the argument.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    An alternative would be a few more sticky notes with basic emergency health care information inside the "bird health" forums.
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    Re: An Emergency thread

    ...Di uns shuts up...

    Great idea, maybe in red so a freaking out newbie, like I was when I found this site can see it immediately.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    Well, I could write up some emergency first aid things...
    but it will take some time because I am pretty busy right now
    with the main bird season over here...

    If there is interest I mean.
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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I know there are some good ones in bird information but some of those along with others on common things, to my mind anyway would be a great addition to an emergency thread, (closed but prominant) if Mods felt a board would not be suitable.
    Links to avian vets, maybe links to other sites to get more information.

    I would be happy to help by googling and presenting links to mods to be considered for inclusion.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    What I think would be a good idea to solve this is to create a whole new forum, and list the most common problems as threads, such as a cut, egg binding those sorts of problems or possibly more serious than them (not that they're not) and people will post all the good advice they know, people will decide on what is good advice and compile that together into one post, and then simply sticky it. That way there cannot be any bad advice as good people will be there to say whether or not it is safe or could cause more problems. Of course there would be a sticky for "how the forum works" or other, so people will know how to impart their knowledge. And of course there will be notices or other that this is no fallback from a vet. If people have unique or strange situations that would probably not have come up on the board then I think they should be directed to a board right below it for them and then maybe those threads of rarer events can be copied with the good advice to the "reference" board.

    Eventually I think we could cover pretty much anything, so a person in an emergency can quickly browse through all of the locked and sticky-d threads to find their problem and get the advice that they need. I think this would do a great deal, but still making sure it is absolutely crystal clear and I think should be posted on every thread in big-bold-red-warning that this cannot replicate an avian vet's treatment.

    In addition to this another sticky-d thread with good approved links.

    I think it would be good, but anyone else have any ideas, or found a chink in the chain?



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    Re: An Emergency thread

    Maybe suggest Dan put it to a poll?

    I myself would not vote in favor of it, due to reasons already stated by previous posters.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I agree that it's not a great idea. Too much possible danger in a section like that


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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I think an emergency thread is an amazing idea. Maybe with sticky's on certain symptoms and what it could be and i definetly think a sticky on how to (properly) set up a hospital tank would be good. I vote yes.

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    I like edd's idea!

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    Re: An Emergency thread

    The problem with closed sticky threads is that many people just won't read them...how many posts do we have on sick birds where we tell the user what to do, but when the next user with a sick bird comes along, they post practically the exact same question and don't read prior answers?

    I would probably vote nay based on the risks involved and also because you can create an Emergency forum with all the stickies you want but I guarantee you, you will still get emergency threads in the other bird forums like we do now.

    We already have many sick bird threads with wonderful information in them.

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