pair of hybrid lovebirds

[denisesfeathers]

they fell in love the male is a olive green peach faced split to lutnio. The female is a wild type Fischer's lovebird. They have laid one egg so far.

here is Miles and Mia

[sunbirdx]

If you put them in separate cages, they won't be in love anymore, and you won't have to produce hybrid babies.

[denisesfeathers]

If you put them in separate cages, they won't be in love anymore, and you won't have to produce hybrid babies.

everyone dose it I know a local breeder and friend that has a pair like mine. and I think the babies are so cute anyway. I don't have a male fischers lovebird so this works out for me.

[Little Cricket]

Wow, this is absolutely disgusting. How could you intentionally breed hybrids? Who gives a crap if some horrible breeder does it, that doesn't make it right.

This makes me livid.

[leebee]

Wow, this is absolutely disgusting. How could you intentionally breed hybrids? Who gives a crap if some horrible breeder does it, that doesn't make it right.

This makes me livid.

Same here, I can't get over how awful some breeders are! Sadly, it seems that Denise is one such breeder...

I don't have a male fischers lovebird so this works out for me.

Denise, here is an article on hybridization;
http://www.harleysperch.com/hybrids.htm
I strongly urge you to read it.

[vmorrison]

everyone dose it I know a local breeder and friend that has a pair like mine. and I think the babies are so cute anyway.

That doesn't make it right or acceptable! It takes away birds from the proper gene pool and it's not so easy any more to import birds between countries when certain species suddenly can't be found anymore because of improper breeding practices.

I breed a rare species of bird so I know what it's like when you run out of unrelated bloodlines.

[Baboo's Momma]

I also, agree with what the others are saying. You have to know at least some of the negatives. I mean, you are a member on this board, which means you have seen several threads about why NOT to do this. You are being selfish and hurting both species by doing so. I can only hope you come to your senses, split up this pair, and not ever breed them again. Just b/c everyone else does it or b/c you think they are pretty is NOT a good reason to be doing so. Actually, there is NO good reason...

Tsk, tsk...I seriously thought better of you as a breeder...

[denisesfeathers]

That doesn't make it right or acceptable! It takes away birds from the proper gene pool and it's not so easy any more to import birds between countries when certain species suddenly can't be found anymore because of improper breeding practices.

I breed a rare species of bird so I know what it's like when you run out of unrelated bloodlines.

oh ok I see what you mean. I will separate them now and shake the egg and boil it. I did not know it was that bad. I am glad I asked before they really started breeding. I will put Miles with his brother right away. and Mia with the other female Fischer's I have. I will just have to wait till I save enough money to get a Fischer's male.

[denisesfeathers]

I also, agree with what the others are saying. You have to know at least some of the negatives. I mean, you are a member on this board, which means you have seen several threads about why NOT to do this. You are being selfish and hurting both species by doing so. I can only hope you come to your senses, split up this pair, and not ever breed them again. Just b/c everyone else does it or b/c you think they are pretty is NOT a good reason to be doing so. Actually, there is NO good reason...

Tsk, tsk...I seriously thought better of you as a breeder...

I think we posted at the same time brb I am going to split the pair now.

[Shade]

everyone dose it I know a local breeder and friend that has a pair like mine. and I think the babies are so cute anyway. I don't have a male fischers lovebird so this works out for me.

Somehow, "if everybody jumped off the bridge, would you?" comes to mind.

You've been breeding lovebirds for a while, right? Therefore, one assumes you've done some research about it by now, even if you didn't do any before starting to breed (which I don't know if it's the case and at this point, it's a mute point). You should have come across that producing hybrids is not a good thing, even if everyone else around you does it.

Why most these two birds absolutely be in "breeding mode", even if you don't have a proper match?

edit: both replies before mine were not there before I started writing this...

[denisesfeathers]

there I took the nest box out and broke the egg and threw it in the garbage. Miles is with his brother now and Mia is in the cage by herself. I would feel bad that there was no natural lovebirds left. Thanks for the wake up call everyone.

[leebee]

This is not the first time Denise, that you have had ideas about breeding hybrids;
http://www.tailfeathersnetwork.com/c...ad.php?t=55041
In which you were told the reasons why hybrid birds should not be willingly bred. Unusually the thread took it's, almost cliché, usual turn.

[eliza]

Lee, I thought that same thing. Hasn't this subject been brought up before?

Definitely re-pair the lovebirds with mates of their own species if you feel the need to breed them.

[denisesfeathers]

well I heard it was bad. but the books I have never really go into detail about it. now that I looked on the net a bit. its like breeding a tiger with a house cat not a Sheppard with a lab.

[denisesfeathers]

This is not the first time Denise, that you have had ideas about breeding hybrids;
http://www.tailfeathersnetwork.com/c...ad.php?t=55041
In which you were told the reasons why hybrid birds should not be willingly bred. Unusually the thread took it's, almost cliché, usual turn.

wow I forgot about that but that bird was a hybrid that I was thinking of breeding. She is in a good home as a pet right now. Thats why I thought hybrids were cute and she was. maybe I should rescue another hybrid to suit my fancy. I was reading that and its more on trying to tame Jaws then breeding. I wish I kept her now I miss her.

[denisesfeathers]

she might lay another egg but I will destroy that egg too. I have a bad memory sorry lol.

[sunbirdx]

I am glad you decided to do the right thing Denise! I applaud you for being open to the facts, many people are not. I am sure you will find a mate for your little Fischers (make sure you get a pure fischers, there are already problems with masked and fischers due to hybridization!), and personally, I think it is a waste to breed such a pretty PF for hybrids! Although, she can't be split to lutino as females don't carry any sex linked splits. She would be great with any cinnamon lovie husband

[di_dee1]

Destroying the egg could encourage her to lay more. I feel it would be best to boil it and any more and let her sit on them till she gets tired of them.

[denisesfeathers]

Destroying the egg could encourage her to lay more. I feel it would be best to boil it and any more and let her sit on them till she gets tired of them.

ok I will boil them thats for sure that she might lay more.

[denisesfeathers]

I am glad you decided to do the right thing Denise! I applaud you for being open to the facts, many people are not. I am sure you will find a mate for your little Fischers (make sure you get a pure fischers, there are already problems with masked and fischers due to hybridization!), and personally, I think it is a waste to breed such a pretty PF for hybrids! Although, she can't be split to lutino as females don't carry any sex linked splits. She would be great with any cinnamon lovie husband

how do you tell a pure Fischer's from a hybrid fishers lovebird. I will look at some pictures of pure fischers and hybrid Fischer's now. So I can tell the difference. with non eye rings and eye rings its easy to tell. not so much with two eye rings being breed together. I will make sure I can see the parents of the bird before I get it.

[DonnaM]

Wow, this is absolutely disgusting. How could you intentionally breed hybrids? Who gives a crap if some horrible breeder does it, that doesn't make it right.

This makes me livid.

That is totally uncalled for!!! I have a hybrid lovebird and he is the sweetest lovebird that I have ever owned. I think that you are being overly harsh, and should keep your comments to yourself. Yes, I bred Lovebirds, I don't intentionally bred Hybrids but in a Avery condition it happens. Doe's that make me a horrible person? No, I don't think so. I'm sorry but your comments really ****** me off. I don't usually say anything, but this time I had to vent. I guess I will be attack for stating what is on my mind, so as of today I will be quitting tailfeathers . Denise I'm sorry, that you boiled the egg. I know that you didn't want to.

[denisesfeathers]

The Fischer's Lovebird has a green back, chest, and wings. Their necks are a golden yellow and as it progresses upward it becomes darker orange. The top of the head is olive green, and the beak is bright red. The upper surface of the tail has some purple or blue feathers. It has a white circle of bare skin (eyering) around its eyes. Young birds are very similar to the adults, except for the fact that they are duller and the base of their mandible has brown markings. They are one of the smaller lovebirds, about 14 cm (5.5 in)[1] in length and 43-58 g weight.

this is what a fischers lovebird should look like. I think my one female might be a hybrid with a mask because she has a dark head.

[denisesfeathers]

That is totally uncalled for!!! I have a hybrid lovebird and he is the sweetest lovebird that I have ever owned. I think that you are being overly harsh, and should keep your comments to yourself. Yes, I bred Lovebirds, I don't intentionally bred Hybrids but in a Avery condition it happens. Doe's that make me a horrible person? No, I don't think so. I'm sorry but your comments really ****** me off. I don't usually say anything, but this time I had to vent. I guess I will be attack for stating what is on my mind, so as of today I will be quitting tailfeathers . Denise I'm sorry, that you boiled the egg. I know that you didn't want to.

so other people do breed hybrids but I just think its not for me. I rather keep the lovebirds pure. getting hot headed does not work just look at my other thread.

[Little Cricket]

That is totally uncalled for!!! I have a hybrid lovebird and he is the sweetest lovebird that I have ever owned. I think that you are being overly harsh, and should keep your comments to yourself. Yes, I bred Lovebirds, I don't intentionally bred Hybrids but in a Avery condition it happens. Doe's that make me a horrible person? No, I don't think so. I'm sorry but your comments really ****** me off. I don't usually say anything, but this time I had to vent. I guess I will be attack for stating what is on my mind, so as of today I will be quitting tailfeathers . Denise I'm sorry, that you boiled the egg. I know that you didn't want to.

Hybridization doesn't "just happen." It happens because of irresponsible breeding. Yes, I think that letting a fischers and a peachface breed is disgusting. I don't care weather they're intentionally paired up (like Denise had) or kept in the same breeding aviary (like it sounds like you have).

The responsible thing to do is to not house them together, period. I don't know how anyone can justify the muddying up of the gene pool. It's not okay. I have nothing against the poor birds that result from it, but as for the people that allow it to happen? It's disgusting.

As for you being a horrible person? I don't think I said anything of the sort. But I do think it is a horrible breeding practice.

[denisesfeathers]

here she is she was with another peach faced lovebird with her other owner. I separated them and the male had babys with another peach faced lovebird. is she a hybrid herself



here are my other two fischers I got them from a breeder that only breeds fischers lovebirds. they look different in a way. they don't have a the dark on there head just orange.