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    Question blue and gold or green wing?

    I was talking to the people I bought my GCC from. I mentioned how my dream bird has always been a TAG. They both think I may be better off with a B&G or a greenwing macaw since I have a young son who is on the autism spectrum. After talking with them and doing some research I think they are right. From what I've read the macaws tend to be more affectionate and more hands on. My son loves to walk around the house "wearing" Burrito on his arm or shoulder, and bless her heart she loves him and humors him and hangs on as he struts around proudly with his buddy. My son is only 2 1/2 and I won't be buying another bird for a few years, but being the research type person I am I'm already doing what reading I can and asking people for their opinions. What do you all think? Do you agree a B&G or Greenwing would be better and which one do you all prefer for a family situation?

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    I don't see how a Macaw would be a better choice for a child. The only thing that is good about it is they are bigger so it wouldn't be as easy for your child to accidentally hurt the bird (as smaller birds are at bigger risk of being stepped on) but it also brings a bigger risk of your son getting hurt. Macaws beaks are huge and they can do some damage easily. I've heard of more people rehoming the bigger birds because of kids rather than getting one . I guess if you got a baby it would be a bit different as it would be raised with your son, but there is still a risk. I doubt the Macaw would be able to ride on your sons shoulder anyway lol.
    Perhaps a Mini Macaw, such as a Hahn's might be better rather than a huge bird like a Greenwing macaw.
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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    from a tag? I don't think so, they can be very hands on, however they and be very unpredictable also. Bigger beak= bigger bite and Louder scream! If your choosing between birds B&G's tend to be a little more stable... but it seems what you have now is the perfect bird for your son!

    I think if you really want to know b&g's the best thing you can do is go meet them- go to a rescue, see the good the bad and the ugly, let your son see them, he may actually be afraid of a beak that big. Then you will know for sure if you can handle them. I have handled several macaws and by far the greenwings are a bit too much for me... Although I once held a B&G named Lucky at PAEP ( www.parrothelp.org )up the road, he is cage territorial and aggressive towards other birds. I held him away from other birds until it was time to put him back and then he spotted another B&G across the hall from him.... Had the lady behind me not been there to help I would be missing an ear, finger, or whatever he decided to chomp off of me at the time..

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Both TAGs and macaws will bite HARD if you misread their signals or catch them in a bad mood.

    Just to give you an idea of the damage potential: I am an adult, and I have sustained bites/cuts up to 3" long from my TAG. One particularly bad incident has left a permanent scar on the middle finger of my right hand. Tolkien is not aggressive; it's just the inevitable result of having a parrot over a long period of time. Mistakes happen.

    The average macaw is more outgoing and less fearful than a TAG, but macaws can also be hard to predict and have even larger beaks.
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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    as much as I want a bigger bird maybe I'll just stick with Burrito. from what they told me and what I've read, the greys are more likely to become pluckers and not want the hands on, especially in a loud, and active household like mine. as I said my son is on the spectrum so meltdowns are pretty regular and not likely to be outgrown.

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Any bird has the potential to pluck. Right now on craigslist there is a young B&G macaw that is a plucker up for rehoming near me. But yes, Greys are at higher risk of plucking because they need so much stimulation.
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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Also realize (although I might be preaching to the choir here, so bear with me) that part of the autism spectrum leaves a possibility for a child that is very sensitive to certain pitches of noise......and both the birds you listed have the capability of being extremely loud - take this into consideration before you buy!

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha1025 View Post
    as much as I want a bigger bird maybe I'll just stick with Burrito. from what they told me and what I've read, the greys are more likely to become pluckers and not want the hands on, especially in a loud, and active household like mine. as I said my son is on the spectrum so meltdowns are pretty regular and not likely to be outgrown.
    Yes, you are right, grays like predictablity. They're cautious and methodical.

    On this measure alone, a species that tends to be loud and boisterous could be a better choice.

    However, that leads quickly to an important question: If you already have one child prone to meltdowns, do you really want a second? Macaws, amazons, cockatoos, and birds of this sort like "throw fits" when they are frustrated, ignored, or just in the mood. You already have a lot on your plate, so you might want to think about whether you really want all these extra demands and noise.

    Smaller birds might be better for you. They have most of the fun qualities of the larger birds, but they can be easier to handle and more forgiving when you are having a rough day or week. In my experience, the often-overlooked cockatiel is the perfect bird in this respect. Very loving, also very forgiving.
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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Jillybean, you're right, quite often children on the spectrum can be sound sensitive. Fortunately noise doesn't bother him. Believe me, if it did these budgies would have to go. The 2 of them together make me nuts Seriously though, he's not at all sound sensitive. He's got other sensory issues like touch and some bright lights.

    Notredamebird, I hate to say this here, but I had a cockatiel many years ago. Maybe it was just that particular bird but he never did it for me. He was a good bird, a hand fed baby, and yet he and I never clicked and I haven't ever wanted another tiel after him. I love Burrito (my gcc), she's a great little bird. And while I know all birds can bite (as can any animal) I was hoping to one day have a bird that wasn't quite so nippy.

    I do truly appreciate everyone's input and maybe I just won't get another bird. The TAG was always my dream, but just as border collies are my perfect breed of dog I probably won't be getting another one of them after I lose my Morgan (which hopefully won't be for a long time) as they aren't the ideal breed with kids (especially loud and dramatic kids) either. I'll keep doing my research and I'll see how my son develops. His specialists are hoping once he starts speaking he should be less frustrated and hopefully have less meltdowns and **crossing my fingers here** will calm down some. Thanks again and if anyone else has any other input please share

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    I've got a son who has been downgraded to having autistic traits. Too interactive to keep the guernsey, but that's another story. Now he doesn't do too well with too much noise.

    My CAG generally only talks rather then any screaming and they stay away from each other. Seems to be a mutual understanding there. The ones that really set my son off to a meltdown are the hahns macs when the girls get going. For this reason with the volume and pitch alone I would avoid any type of macaw. The girls are only here on a temporary basis thanks goodness cute as they are.

    Noah also has some issues with the ekkie scream when Merlin gets a head of steam up. Heck, I have issues with the noise when Merlin really gets going.

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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Out of all my birds, the one who is the least nippy is Olive, my Gold-Capped Conure. While she can be loud, she is the most behaved fid of all of them. She usually just sits there and preens me all day. She isn't the cuddliest bird out there, but she loves a good head scratch and will sit there for hours letting you pet her. Her only problem is she is picky with her people. She decides if she likes you as soon as she meets you and trust me, you will know if she doesn't like you lol. But she really is the light of my life .
    Just putting it out there, because every one who meets Olive says "I want one of those birds!" .
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    Re: blue and gold or green wing?

    Dont worry! One day you will meet the perfect bird for you! (and it could turn up to be any number of species!)

    Have you looked into pionus? Like the blue-headed, maxi, white capped, etc? They seem to be something closer to what your looking for: quieter, stable, less nippy, larger parrot, that has all the personality! Or I would suggest the Poi group: red-bellies, senegals, meyers, brown headed.. similar in personality just smaller!

    I was also thinking, if you want a bird that is less nippy too, look to rehome one. write down the triats you want in a bird and then start looking. Actually I got Sellie that way, The lady that had him was just getting to old, I was happy to take Sellie off her hands, he was well taken care of and was past maturity and knew his manners. He has a few quirks, yes, but your not going to have a bird without his quirks. It was by far the best decision I made when searching for a conure as he was my first bird larger than a tiel that I had.

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