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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    i think i emailed roudybush before
    and yeahm, Sara is right that customs can be a real pain, Not as bad as Aus- but some sort of license needs to be in place. The only real success i've ahd with samples are Lafebers. And as great as nutriberries are- i dont buy the whole complete diet thing!

    I wonder if northern parrots do the guarantee. The other place i buy from is midland parrots- but their shop is so busy that the website isnt always very up to date. They carry zupreem, and Kaytee. Any comments on Kaytee Complete anyone?

    as to the stuff about pellets being made for bigger birds- that's why i like the xtra vital seed mix i use. it is designed just for the smaller guys. Plus vitae croft have some nice things too- and they actually have one specific to birds by continant of origin- not just size! But it's still seed ya know?


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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by pixibubbles View Post
    I wonder if northern parrots do the guarantee. The other place i buy from is midland parrots- but their shop is so busy that the website isnt always very up to date. They carry zupreem, and Kaytee. Any comments on Kaytee Complete anyone?
    If Zupreem is carried in the UK, they will offer the guarantee. Not the company you bought it from, but Zupreem themselves.

    And Kaytee...

    I hate Kaytee seed & pellet products. The ingredients seem cheap, they use lots of artificial colorings, and it just seems poor quality. I will NOT feed it to my birds. I wouldn't feed it to wild birds. If for some reason Kaytee was my only choice in the whole world, I would rather spend all my money on foods from the health food store than feed Kaytee.

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Try crushing the pellets up and mixing them in to your food mix. Alec and Aros are both rather stubborn about non colored pellets like harrisons and the like... so I crush them up into a powder and mix it into their food dishes. I sprinkle a little on their veggies and simply mix it in with seeds and their other pellets. At least I know they're getting their nutrition one way or another.

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    I feed both Roudybush and Zupreem. The Roudybush crumbles (all Roudybush products are undyed) are very small and easy for little birds to eat, and Pinto seems to really like them. Zupreem offers several options and I feed both the fruit blend (dyed) and the Avian Entree/Natural diet (undyed).

    I know Roudybush has a website that you can order from, but I'm not sure if they ship to the UK or if you'd have problems if they did.

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Zupreem are great pellets helen, you should try them out to see if Sammy likes them.
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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    I feed ZuPreem Natural, along with their salad and mash and so on. The birds all really love it. I tend to buy the 40lb bags, but with our six, it still doesn't last that long. We didn't even have trouble switching them to it. They were pretty happy just to eat it straight off.

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Personally, the only pellets I would feed are either Harrisons or ZuPreem natural.
    Roudybush don't do samples to the UK, I've asked recently and been told that we aren't able to get them. Also, it isn't an option for us to buy as there isn't anywhere UK that actually stocks the stuff.
    Also, on the subject of high potency harrisons, Harrisons themselves only recommend it to be used for a maximum of 6 months, while a bird adjusts to living seed free. If you aren't going to be cutting sammy from seed, and other foods then you don't have to feed it. Pepper has never had the high potency, and has only ever been on the adult lifetime, super fine and has never had any problems. The fine variety is more tailored for smaller birds, so that they don't get too much nutrition, and are less likely to overeat them as they are in a more manageable size, also there is much less wastage as there is much less to grind up when eaten.
    Pepper doesn't eat a great deal of them, and still I've never wasted a 1lb bag

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Helen, I don't get what you mean by "designed for bigger birds." How is the nutritional requirement different? What isn't good about it for smaller birds?

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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by pixibubbles View Post
    as to the stuff about pellets being made for bigger birds- that's why i like the xtra vital seed mix i use. it is designed just for the smaller guys. Plus vitae croft have some nice things too- and they actually have one specific to birds by continant of origin- not just size! But it's still seed ya know?
    vitae croft -- Do you mean Vitakraft? Ugh... Don't get me started on them. There's a few companies out there that market towards specific species (Pretty Bird comes to mind). I wouldn't trust that. Just because it says "Africa" or "eclectus" on the label doesn't mean it's in the particular species best interest.

    Zupreem has come recommended to me by a lot of parrot owners, particularly their "natural" version. Kaytee has both a natural and an organic pellet available. A lot of folks don't feed Kaytee b/c of their being one of the main "bird millers" out there, supplying pet stores with their parrots.

    I know that some breeders of smaller species of parrots have expressed concerns over pellets as the primary diet. I know that Sandee Molenda, a well-known breeder on parrotlets here in the States, has written on the subject in regards to mutation parrotlets: http://www.parrotletranch.com/pellets.html

    Brotogeris parakeets apparently don't do well on them in the long term, sometimes developing kidney and/or liver issues. Some broto breeders/enthusiasts don't feed pellets at all and those that do try to get low protein pellets. Here in the US, that means Roudybush.

    Anyway, sorry for the ramble. I would suggest Zupreem. If Sammy doesn't like the smallest version, get a mortar & pestle to crush them. If he'll eat birdie breads or veggie mashes, you can add the pellets to that.

    Best of luck!
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    Re: looking to change pellets- any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by eliza View Post
    There's a few companies out there that market towards specific species (Pretty Bird comes to mind). I wouldn't trust that. Just because it says "Africa" or "eclectus" on the label doesn't mean it's in the particular species best interest.

    I know that some breeders of smaller species of parrots have expressed concerns over pellets as the primary diet.
    Oh I know. Pretty Bird has an Eclectus specific pellet. It is totally artificially colored & flavored. I might as well just feed them Fruit Loops!

    I have also noticed some species that are on all pellet diets have feather & health issues. Budgies & Tiels would eat seed in the wild. To not give them any is doing them a disservice, IMO. I have seen tiels on pellet only diets, with fresh veggies & fruits, that had the worst feathering. Dry, disheveled, stress bars, etc.

    Also, with eclectus, a pellet only diet is BAD. Some seeds are a must.

    Our birds all get a pellet/seed mixture that we make ourselves. The GCCs, tiels, and parrotlet get Zupreem fruit blend in parakeet size, mixed with a hearty tiel seed mix. (Hearty because it has dried fruits & veggies, nuts, and small bits of cuttlebone)
    Karma, Romeo, & Poe get a different mix. Zupreem natural, avian entrée or other natural colored pellet. The seed mix varies. We got 2 5 lb.bags of Volkmann's Eclectus seed mix for free, so we mixed that for a while. But usually it is a very hearty, "med. parrot supreme" mix. Again, with fruits, veggies, nuts, cuttlebone, cinnamon sticks, star anise, etc.

    I have to say, I love getting seed mixes that have tiny bits of cuttle bone mixed in. I'm talking dime size. Picky birds are more likely to eat it, rather than ignore the giant cuttlebone on the cage bars.

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