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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Maya, your post couldn't be interpreted as knocking people with other pets. I had cats when my hubby gave me Kiwi but KitKat was geriatric (she slept on Kiwi's cage cover on the shelf under Kiwi's cage) and Kiwi could attack anyone (except me) who even talk to KitKat or pet her. Our other cat was Squawk who knew better - unfortunately both have since crossed over Rainbow Bridge, one from old age and the other due to cancer. Our third cat George decided he didn't like the racket or the fact that Kiwi would bathe in his water bowl and moved away by 2-3 blocks and now lives with 2 older bachelor brothers. He sometimes visits and stops in for a bowl of food outside but never stays or wants to come in.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Good, I'm glad. I just know some people out there who actually have taken offense and/or have gotten upset when I would point out potential dangers of having both birds and dogs/cats. Most of the time I get, "My cat/dog would NEVER hurt my bird(s)" or "That won't happen to my bird(s)." If that were the case, there wouldn't be any "horror" stories from owners.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    personally i would never let my dogs out while the birds is out...but Lotte, my border collie/ kelpie, cannot be trusted even when the birds are in their cages...we have finaly taught her to stare at them from a safe distance...kelpies do have a tendancy to stare things down.

    however, my little dog, Teddy, is the most gentle dog u can imagine...he is actually afraid of the birds and will look at me like im trying to hurt him when i take the bird out...hmm...luckily he is a very passive dog.

    of course i would never leave them alone but some dogs have the right personality to get a long well with birds...others just want to hear them squeek like their toys do

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Quote Originally Posted by maya_exquisite View Post
    Something to keep in mind when you have dogs or cats with birds... the other animals may be very friendly and trustworthy (under supervision), but birds can get stressed out just with the presence of cats and dogs (even small ones). The vet we send our fosters to has stories of birds becoming pluckers because they would get stressed out from the family dog or cat, even though the birds would be in their cages and the other animal didn't pose any REAL threat.
    The thing is...I refuse to live my life around this idea. I think that the birds should live as part of the flock, but not be the center of the flock (so to speak). Anything can stress a bird out (they are weird creatures), for example Darwin is terrified of kleenex, my yoga ball, stuffed toys with eyes, etc. Does that mean I am not going to keep these things? Nope! What about having kids? I am going to have them (hopefully) or moving across the country? All of life is filled with things birds perceive as stress, but it will not stop me from enjoying them in addition to birds. So, for me life isn't complete without dogs. Is there a risk that Darwin will be stressed out? sure. Am I willing to take that risk to live my life as full as possible? yep!

    Meanwhile things are going well at our house with the new pup. He has boundaries with Darwin and he does respect them (he isn't allowed in Darwins room ect) and he doesn't focus on him at all. And Darwin isn't stressed out at all (or so it seems). In fact, the dog has taken to begging for food from Darwin, since he seems to throw everything on the floor, and I certainly don't have to vacuum as much as I used to. And they have reached some sort of communication together, when Darwin does his warning call (for squirrels usually) Huxley comes running, barking to find out what kind of creature might be lurking.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Well it's been 5 months now, and while my decision remains to not let the birds out when the dog is around, they're not stressed by his presence in our home at all. At first they were- they'd freak out every time Frankie (dog) walked into the room, but now they honestly don't care, and neither does he. He doesn't bark at them, or really even pay attention to them. They'll even quite happily sleep on their perches while he lays on the floor under their cages.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    I have an many of the experiences with only dogs not with birds. But I am very much impressed by your experiences with dogs and the birds. It is a very great and a beneficial things for dogs and the birds which we take care of them the most.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    We have 6 cockatiels, 3 budgies, a Sun Conure, a GCC, 2 kakarikis and 2 finches. We got our Border Collie 6 months ago and she couldn't be anywhere near them. She just wanted to kill them, having never seen birds before - she's an 8 year old ex-sheepdog who was kept outside all her life. I still don't trust her with birds outside the cage, but inside the cage, she's fine.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    In my experience, chosing the right dog and being exceptionally careful are the most important principles of keeping both birds and dogs.

    6 years ago ... or maybe it was 7 ... I rescued an adult sighthound, and it was a BAD idea. Hazel was 3 years old, and she had been a stray. Adopting this particular animals was dumb of us, on so many levels. She was a breed with an instinctive tendency to chase fleeing objects. She was an adult, and not socialized to other pets. And she had been hunting for part or all of her adult life. Things went alright with her at first, because we watched her like a hawk when the birds were out. But one day when we were gone, she managed to take apart a bird cage I *thought* was secure and killed my two cockatiels. I feel very guilty, to this day, for failing to prevent this event.

    Our current dog was socialized around our birds, which makes like much easier and safer. She is not a breed I would really consider ideal for bird owners. She is a mini-dachshund. Like all hounds, dachshunds are hunters and some are very prey-driven; they are also stubborn and inclined to disobey training when it doesn't suit them. There are 4 dachshunds in our extended family, and all the dachshunds not raised around birds think my parrots are tasty snacks. However, Tipti grew up around the birdss and in consequence does not view them as prey. In fact, she ignores them completely, like they are just part of the scenery.

    The lesson I take away from my experiences is:
    (1) Never, ever trust a dog around a prey animal. Always assume the dog could pull something unexpected or sneaky, and prevent the event. For us, this means not leaving the house unless there is a closed door between a dog and a bird cage.
    (2) Get puppy or young dog you can socialize and train not to mess with your birds, or adopt an adult dog with the right disposition.

    As to the vet who said that the mere presence of cats and dogs will stress a bird: I don't think that is true. Owing to the fact that my dog does not chase them, my birds have no idea whatsoever that she is a potential threat. They ignore her too, except for Tolkien. Tolkien believes, for some reason, that Tipti is just wonderful and that he should be able to interact with her. Thus I must prevent Tolkien from waltzing across the floor to take her toys, drink her water, or pull her tail.
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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    So my question is; what are other people's experiences with birds and dogs?
    I might be the wrong person to ask, but... my conure doesn't mind dogs at all. My 'tiel on the other hand will attack dogs.

    I'd say introduce them very slowly, hold the dog so it can't get them and let the birds check it out maybe? That might be easier than letting the dog (larger than them) go up to the birds, who might see that as a threat?

    I don't know if that works at all but it seemed Logical to me, and until I knew what my 'tiel would do, that's what I did when my friend brought her dogs over. Now I hold the 'tiel back...
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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Xam (german shepherd and dachshund mix...but that is another story) is used to having birds and other small animals around. Pepe, my son's recently departed parakeet would even land on his back for a ride, and Xam would sniff, look at us with that "I didn't do anything" look, and just ignore Pepe and keep walking.
    With the new troublesome trio, we let him sniff them through the cage bars, he looked at us in resignation, and went on with his business. He still occasionally tries to "help" us steer them back in their cage, but that will stop in a couple of weeks, when the newbies become a fixed scent and sound in the house.
    In short, it really depends on the dog, and your relationship with him/her.
    Good luck!!!

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    I have a large breed dog, and im of the same mind of better safe than sorry. She is a lovely well behaved dog that wouldnt harm a fly, BUT shes huge, clumsy and loves other animals of all descriptions! It would be too easy for her to acidentally hurt one of my birds, i did try having her and the parrotlet out together but i wasnt comfortable with it in the end, it seems to be when the birds take flight that even the most well trained dogs can get a kick in of their prey drive...or just get excited and want to play! But i'd never forgive myself if she killed a bird.
    she and the birds love having a natter through the bars though! they actually come down to see her but shes learnt not to get too close or they try and peck her nose!!

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Are you asking for advice or just letting us know how you deal with owning both a bird and a dog?? Sorry, it's unclear to me.

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon View Post
    Are you asking for advice or just letting us know how you deal with owning both a bird and a dog?? Sorry, it's unclear to me.
    Its in response to the original post:

    So my question is; what are other people's experiences with birds and dogs?
    We got lots of Ham here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheaps View Post
    Its in response to the original post:
    Oh sorry, I didn't see this was the second page! My bad!

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    Re: Dogs and birds?

    Look up his breed on the comp. Some dogs are breed for hunting. We have a dog named Happy. He is a bird hunter. He already killed quit a few birds, including my budgie named lemony.

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