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    cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    i think im writing in the right spot now if not please tell me so i can fix it im new to this site as of dec 5/11 aprox.


    first id like to say ive been doing research on breeding cockatiels and i am having information overload and conflicting facts so im gonna ask ,what they think here and their experience in theses problems.THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR UR HELP
    my question is #1- should u handle the eggs from day 5-11 days of incubating for candling purposes and spot cleaning of the nest?also # 2 -once chicks are hatched (some ppl say )interact with chicks daily while others say dont touch them !!!! what do u guys think?
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    i am not new to owning birds,ive had budgies and four cockatiels in past but am new to breeding.ive owned Nana(female)3 1/2 yrs and Cloud(male)2 1/2 yrs s .originally i was told they were both males when i bought them(1 yr apart from each other) they never mated all that time, til dec5/10 boy was i surprised i hadnt planned on breeding them . then they had four eggs .then abandoned them after i mistakenly changed them into a bigger cage for comfort and to place a nestbox inside since she laid 2 eggs by then on other cages floor.which from the research i did said this is bad and the eggs probably wouldnt hatch.
    horrible mistake s moving eggs and parents to new cage
    so that ended badly,they stopped all egg incubation and stopped mating.i reduced extra food intake to normal levels and removed nesting,nestbox and reduced lighting to 10hrs/day,14/hrs sleep,and was already in new cage and setup inside cage.this stopped them for excatly 1mth.than once again i find an egg on 5th of jan./11 now egg#2 jan 12/11 please help i have too much infromation that conflicts and contradicts each other about theses questions .what do u think?

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    So, if it is any consolation at all - the first time Sonny & Peeps laid eggs they chose to do it in a paper supermarket bag next to their cage. It had some unused bird supplies so they checked it out. I noticed what they were doing and shredded some of those straw Chinese finger traps into the bottom and folded down the top of the bag to make it stronger. I also put a perch in the bag going from a corner at the bottom to an opposite corner at the top. When they started to lay eggs, I didn't touch them but did move the bag into a spare cage just for them and that's how they did it - their way.

    I have pix so I'll try & post them for you so you realize that they have minds of their own no matter what you think you're going to try to do for them (as you've already found out).

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    so far they love the new cage and homemade nest which i made from an mandarine box and shoebox bottom for a roof .she happily sits on her two new eggs.i have been leaving them alone in their nest box and only go in cage to feed and water them.and also let them out to poop when they pace back n forth n call out(you who whistle)other than that ive been hands off today.
    so how does ppl feel about candling eggs?is it necessary?or leave them alone till hatched?
    and when they hatch how often would u check on them?
    would u pick the chicks and handle them or just view from outside box,inside at them?

    sorry to ask so many questions at once but there is lots of different opions on the net and different forums ive been on for past 2 mths again

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    for responding any help, u think might help would be apriciated gr8ly i look forward to seeing the pics Sandra

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    The only time I handled any eggs was pretty much to number them so that I could keep track on the calendar as to who was laid when and when each egg would hatch +/-.

    As for the chicks, I have never pulled any chicks and handfed them - I've left that up to the parents. What I have done, however, is start handling the chicks once they have their "mohawk & pinfeather" look and have their eyes open. I'd take them out for an hour or so and have them on the sofa or on my lap on fleece or an old towel so I could talk to them and pet them a little. This way they're used to people, voices and hands by the time they can fly (and believe me it doesn't seem to take long).

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    ty once again Sandra.i have numbered egg#1 but was nervous of touching egg#2.i know my Nana wouldn't mind if i touched the eggs but Cloud is very protective of his eggies and will lightly peck at me or in my direction if i go into cage to give food &water&extra soft foods.he does however let me take Nana out first then he'll
    step up to come out with no problems if she comes first.(to get to stretch her & his wings/bathroom,3 times a day as of yesterday)they are very attached to me and sit on my shoulder daily for up to 2hrs at a time before 2nd egg,what should i do now as far keeping them out for short periods?(maybe 10 mins at a time or make them stay inside all day ??,even tho i know they want out!) yesterday i changed that to only to relieve themselves than right back in cage.is that right to do?(even when they are asking to come out all day)i don't wanna make them lose interest in their eggs for coming out instead.

    also i do want the parents to feed them until weaned.i will only feed babies if i HAVE to.
    mohawks & pinfeathers come in when?aprox. of course every bird is different. i know the eyes open after 10 days old aprox.
    and that was my question about when to handle babies after 10 days old or right away from birth so to speak .

    i did check out the pics of ur flock they are beautiful birds.and ur Sonny &Peeps look just like Nana &Cloud
    ps i sent a friend request hope u don't mind
    again for being there for me,any help along the way that might come to ur mind just let me know.
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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    I believe that it's about a month from the time they hatch until they have their "mohawk & pinfeather" look. I went back & checked the pix of Sasha & Buffy which was dated January 2010. They were laid around Thanksgiving week and hatched around Christmas (I think but I'll double check the calendar) when I get home.

    As for handling the chicks, I waited because I figured that if they were older they'd be a little more resistant to any cold germs or anything similar if they were at least feathered and a little older. Have to warn you though if you've never held a tiel chick they feel pretty strange. They feel like a little warm bag of oatmeal with legs which can actually feel kinda creepy. And they hiss & lunge the same way protective parents do which is funny to watch.

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    the candling eggs is advised because if you have some eggs not fertile you can toss them so you don't do to get tired the female uselessly; however I advise you to don't pick the eggs with the hands but you can bring a little light near at the egg without to touch it with the hand so it there is not risk to do to fall the eggs .
    I maked these pics for my italian forum(I created that forum, known as "agapornisworld", nearly 3 year ago) but now these pictures serve to you




    egg KO

    egg OK.


    for like to handle the birds I in your shoes would follow the Sandra's advice.
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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    Okay, so I checked my records the photos of Sasha & Buffy (later renamed Suki) were taken on 12/28/09. They were laid on 11/16 and 11/19 and hatched on 12/05 and 12/07-08/09. Their eyes opened on 12/18-19 and 12/21/09. By 12/24 Sasha had yellow face markings and by 12/26 Suki had grey pinfeathers. By 01/05/10 Sasha was 1 month old and Suki was 1 month old on 01/07-08/10. Can't remember and don't have it noted but they probably started flying around 1 1/2 - 2 months of age. I think it was my vet (or I read it somewhere & don't remember where), the smaller the bird the faster they have to grow and learn to fly as part of their survival in the world.

    Their parents, Sonny & Peeps, had already started laying more eggs on 01/07, 01/10, 01/12, 01/14 & 01/16. So watch out!

    As for candling my birds' eggs, I never have because I reason that if they aren't fertile the eggs won't hatch and will eventually be pushed aside specially once the chicks hatch and need to be fed. I hope some of this helps. Just keep in mind that this is a timeline for one pair of birds and birds are like people (as my kids pediatrician always said) no two are exactly the same in any way shape or fashion.
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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    so what you are both saying is pretty much number eggs from outside cage without picking egg up if possible,candle periodically,and handle chicks after 3wks old -1 mth old of age.
    Am i right?understanding you both properly?
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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    yes, you can do the candling periodically (example one time every week) but it must be done without to pick the eggs you can get close to the eggs with a white light.
    I believe you have understood when to handle the babies
    good luck
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    I believe the theory about not handling the eggs too much is based on the fact that the tiels supposedly turn or rotate their eggs while they are sitting on them. When I number mine, I do have a (soft) felt tip pen handy and I try to take the egg out in such a way that when I put it back it is in the same position. But yes, minimal handling.

    I'm also basing this on something I've learned at work (local park district). Since we have problems with geese at a couple of the parks, we applied for a permit to disturb the nests which consists of turning the eggs in nests manually - this apparently upsets the balanced turning done by the parents and the eggs don't hatch.

    Once they have their pinfeathers I handle them daily and as they get older and more used to it I try to handle them more often (since I work full time, you have to take that into consideration). I usually handled them as soon as I got home from work so that it wasn't evening and the parents wouldn't get upset. Changing/doing things at night stresses pets out, so I try to avoid it at all costs (emergencies aside).

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    does anyone viewing this have any feelings/suggestions about :
    to touch or not to touch eggs or chicks?

    some breeders say yes while others say no


    the ones who say yes its to get everyone used to the handling/cleaning cage
    the ones who say don't are afraid either egg/chick could be dropped!or
    parents will abandon nest/chicks


    well i'm not afraid i'd drop eggs/chicks .they let me handle last clutch of eggs..they have let me number two eggs now( second clutch).with no abandonment,so don't think they'd mind if placed back after a minute or two max.when did u first touch the chicks?

    marc and Sandra have given a little advice which i am very grateful for...ty guys

    does anyone else have an view/experience with these question?any help u think might be helpful plz write it here. keep the suggestions or stories coming all

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandraK View Post
    I believe the theory about not handling the eggs too much is based on the fact that the tiels supposedly turn or rotate their eggs while they are sitting on them. When I number mine, I do have a (soft) felt tip pen handy and I try to take the egg out in such a way that when I put it back it is in the same position. But yes, minimal handling.
    this is an interesting theory; I never thought it but believe could be a good justification.
    I would like add still two motivations about not handling the eggs too.
    the first is elementary because more and more you pick the eggs and higher is the probability that an egg can fall.
    the second is bonded at fact that the hands can have some germs/ bacteria and they can generate the death of the embrional

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    Re: cockatiel laid another egg part 2

    good advice Sandra and Marc I'll follow what you guys are saying


    my next question after your last responses is just to find out what others think too
    but ultimately i'll follow your guys advice unless told other wise


    i will keep all t/f updated

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