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    Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    Hi Everyone! I purchased Ollie from a Pet Shop on June 2, 2011. She is the sweetest little tiel ever. The last week she has become quite hormonal, and has been out of sorts at times, so I have been moving her from the bedroom into the livingroom, back and forth sometimes several times a day because she doesn't like the noise of the TV, and seemed to just want to be quiet and "out of sight". Yesterday I read on-line about female tiels egg laying habits, especially during the fall and spring. I have a parakeet also, but both are in separate cages.

    So about an hour ago, I took her back to the bedroom, covered her as usual, but checked her every 10 minutes or so because she just wasn't the happy Ollie I know. Low and behold, I uncovered the cage and there she was in the corner of the cage just sitting on the floor. It really scared me. I thought she was sick. So I put my hand into the cage and tried to gently lift her up out of the corner, and about that time she moved a little bit, and sure enough, out popped the egg!! I was simply speechless. So I gave her some scritches, and she was able to get up onto her bird seed cup and then onto the perch. i immediately brought her back out into the living room and took the egg out of the cage. I have boiled it, and am about to put it back into the cage on the floor. I cut up some paper towel and have a plastic lid from a yogurt container for her to sit in. I also have written down the day and time the first egg was laid. And I also marked it. I will do the same for any others she lays in this clutch. Even though she doesn't have a mate I will let her go through the process of sitting on them now. If I don't she will just lay all over again.

    I hope I don't have a chronic egg layer on my hands. But if I do, I will deal with it accordingly. I am so happy I gave her such a good seed/pellet diet and she had lots of calcium in her fresh veggies and her cuttle bone, and also had whole wheat bread, white rice cooked on occasion, and her cooked broccoli and carrots. The egg is really, really solid and looks great!!

    Thank God I joined this forum and also have done alot of research on tiels. Her behavior the past week did put me on notice that something was definitely going on with her. I had a female tiel a few years ago who was bonded to a male. They were in the same cage. Bella, the female, was almost 15 months old when I introduced the male, Taz to her. In those 15 months Bella never displayed any egg laying behavior and did not lay any eggs until she and Taz bonded as a pair.

    So, what a surprising day I've had. Ollie is searching all over for her egg now, and it is cooled off enough I must give it to her.

    I'll share the happenings of the next few days and weeks with you on occasion.
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    Re: Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    Argh! I've had several females who succumbed to egg-laying problems... either with or without a male in the house, and never due to mating with him when I had him. I'm sure there is plenty on the Web about this, but it is a serious problem, and one I never found a solution for. My last vet advised limiting daylight hours, but I was unwilling to put the bird in a closet during the daytime in Hawaii (where I was) due to heat. Make sure you supplement her with calcium... you can find liquid calcium at the pharmacy or at a health-food store. A vet visit may be advisable, if you know of a good avian vet. I was also told by bird-friends that the cause was my feeding the hens (in addition to their regular food) soft foods such as corn, etc. I am not sure that is true. It might be. Anyway, take this seriously. I had hens laying clutches continuously, one clutch after another, and nothing I did made them stop. I just don't know what the current advice on this matter might be.

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    Thanks for posting, Linda. No, I haven't fed her soft foods per se, the only thing she has on occasion is cooked broccoli and carrots and cooked white rice. She doesn't eat much of it either. I knew something was up with her because the last few days all she did was eat food and drink alot of water. I read a good article on-line today about that and it was very educational because this is a real sign she will be laying eggs very soon. And sure enough she did. I'm just so thankful I was in the bedroom looking in on her because I know they can die from being egg bound. And can die fast too! I don't think there is much of anything i could change that I've done to take care of her. She gets at least 12 hours of sleep a night, no soft foods, plenty of fresh green veggies (parsley, kale, leaf lettuce, celery), and plenty of water. Also she has a nap every afternoon for about 3 hours. I will just have to play it by ear. She is the sweetest little tiel I've ever had. I was very afraid today. I'll be watching her carefully now because it will be every couple of days and another egg. Don't know how many she will lay. We shall see. Oh, the perils of "Pauline" . . . . I mean of "birdhood"!!! LOL
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    Re: Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    She will probably lay one every other day until she has 4 or 5... I don't know what to tell you other than that. I was told to rearrange the cage and to change its location so that the bird no longer feels "safe" to lay a clutch. Nothing I ever did worked, though. The latest/greatest info on this may be on the Web. Best of luck, Ellen!

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    Well, I'm getting ready for tomorrow because I expect another egg sometime close to afternoon. I'll be watching her carefully. Today I let her sleep in an extra hour, and she also went back in the bedroom this afternoon. It definitely is a catch 22 so to speak. You cover them up so it darkens the cage, but on the other side of the coin then you have a bird "nesting" so to speak. She is eating and eating her food and loves her kale, parsley, raw carrots and celery. Tomorrow I am going to give her boiled egg yolk. She needs the protein too! She also is getting her calcium from the cuttle bone. I have increased the raw veggies to giving them twice a day now, morning and evening. She loves them! I am always cleaning her cage out and never let the bottom get very dirty. It is rather wasteful of food and seed at times, but the "cleanliness" has to be top priority or she will get a bacterial infection from bad food and/or food with droppings on it and then it will just be more trouble. I read today that some say if you keep the bottom grate in the cage (which I do not do), and they lay and sit on that grate it discourages them from laying. Don't know how true that is. I just don't care for grates, never have used them. Today I removed all of the bells off of her toys. She doesn't seem to miss them and still uses the toys for her stimulation time, but I think today that has lessened to some degree. In the meantime, I'm just going to play it all by ear, and have plenty of time on my hands to do so. Thanks for the encouragement. I'll keep you posted as to the "happenings" of the next few days!

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    Re: Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    Ellen
    Just posted on the rainbow bridge but my vet recommended limiting daylight hours too - I found it hard because the evenings were my time with Jaspa. Also rearranging cages was another idea. As I mentioned in the other post Jaspa's on hormone injections again x3 two weeks apart and she'll have another one in 3 months for maintenance - so far she's not clucky again.
    I also bought some soft fabric and folded it up in the bottom of her larger cage for her to sit on so it was comfortable and warm.

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    Kaz, thanks for your info. The idea of putting a soft cloth in the bottom of the cage is an "awesome" idea. I'm going to try that!! Waiting for egg #2. So far, she hasn't laid it today, but it should be anytime now. I hope she won't have to have the shots, but if she immediately begins this behavior all over again after this is over I'm going to make an appointment with a vet. I don't know if there are any avian vets close by. I'll have to do some searching on-line. If the shots work then I will agree to it. I would prefer not to, however, I don't want to see her health deteriorate and her loss of all of the calcium in her body, etc. I'll be keeping in touch!! Again, thank you, so much for your replies!

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    Egg number two was laid about 8:00 this evening! Everything is o.k. with Ollie at this point. I really feel sorry for her that this has begun so very early in her life, especially since I have no plans to get another tiel and/or breed her. I'm sure going to change some things around after she finishes up this clutch. Hopefully she won't immediately start all over again!

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    Yeah - she seems pretty young to me. Have you been able to feel the egg before its laid? They may lay whether you have a second tiel or breeding. Jaspa laid as a single bird but she's bonded to me so probably thinks I'm her mate - such confusion! Is Ollie sitting on the eggs all the time? It amazes me how they manage to roll them underneath and sit for such a long time. Jaspa had 5 eggs on the last time and would roll them in one at a time and get comfortable - and when she came back to them having eaten its like she would count them to make sure they were all there!

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    So far she isn't setting much! I put a little cardboard box with just one side on it on the cage floor with the two eggs in it. This time I didn't boil the second egg, really no need to do so other than hopefully she won't crack it and then I suppose it would be "lay another egg" in her mind. I am thinking that I might have helped create some of this early egg laying myself, because each night I would go to Youtube, and find cockatiels of all kinds, singing, talking, etc. etc. and she would just LOVE that activity. She would sit on her seed cup, and I sit here in my recliner, and watch every move they made. She did get very verbal it seemed when a couple of them would sing and chirp and would get all excited and move around her cage alot. I have stopped going on-line with the birds now. She doesn't need any additional stimulation for sure. I had to run some errands this morning and when I came back home she had her two eggs, a couple pieces of kale (she LOVES it) and some whole wheat bread pieces all lined up in her little egg box with the two eggs. You know I read so much about kale, but only began purchasing it about 3 weeks ago, and fed it to her every day since then. It is just like I had a message from the Universe/God to feed her kale because it really helped with the calcium. And of course the parsley, celery and carrots also helped. I just think she really bonded fast with me when I got her, because in a couple of days she would whistle when I was out of the room, I would whistle back, and she loves for me to sing to her, play the piano, and whistle. I began whistling "You are my Sunshine" when I first got her, and believe me she knows that song, because she sits on her rope perch and flaps her wings and displays them to me when I sing to her.

    Even though it is a worry to some extent, quite frankly I am really enjoying this little tiel laying experience. I grew up on a farm where we had chickens, ducks, geese, cows, and pigs, so I have been seasoned as a youngster being around all of the animals.

    I don't know if she will lay her third egg tomorrow night after 8:00 in the evening. I will watch her closely because it usually is bedtime for her at that time. Last night I sat in the bedroom on the end of my bed while she was laying the second one just in case she had trouble. For as young as she is, she really is strong. It does make her quite tired after she finally pushes that egg out. And they are pretty good size eggs too. And very solid. I am wondering how many she might lay! Time will tell. I'm just so happy she didn't get egg bound on that first egg!

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    I've never heard of kale and had to google it! Thats cute about her having her bread lined up with her eggs! Has she laid her third one? She sounds so cute with her music! Im not sure whether the internet stimulation would have made any difference or not - its cute watching the utube clippings though. I must say I always worry when Jaspa is ready to lay her egg and am relieved when she's laid one or the whole lot - it must take up a lot of energy to lay them poor thing. The other day I caught her going down her ladder in her night cage (where she usually lays her eggs) to the bottom I think to be clucky so removed her out and shut the door straight away - so far so good :-)

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    Re: Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    Hi Kaz, Yes, we have egg number three, laid yesterday about 12:30 (noon). I was expecting it the night before, but it didn't happen. Yes, I watch her very carefully when I see signs she is going to lay. She wants to be in the bedroom covered up, and will fuss and fuss until I move her there. Then I sit on the end of my bed, and uncover her every few minutes to be sure she isn't egg bound. Yes, it really has to be difficult for her because of the fact she is sooo young. But she is a "trooper", and just sits there and patiently waits until she can push that egg out, and then it is back to her rope perch or her seed cup to eat. I have been putting her to bed much earlier at night so now she is getting 14 hours minimum sleep. Yes, kale is "excellent" for calcium intake for birds. I had done research on "Cockatiel Cottage" (a great website for information) concerning foods to feed new tiels and that was one of the veggies on the list. I had been giving her leaf lettuce, and would have never picked up that package of kale the day I was shopping but they didn't have any leaf lettuce that day so I picked the kale. That is a miracle because I really don't know, other than the parsley I give her every day if she would have had enough calcium in her body to form the egg shells so perfectly.

    You know, I read several forums each day, and I don't think alot of folks really understand how stressful breeding is on a hen. And also, breeding birds isn't just letting two birds get together and then watch them proceed. It is really a very important and responsible job for the caregiver to be sure nothing happens to the pair (or in this case my hen) while they are in the process.

    So now she has three eggs. I boiled the first one, and I noticed last night when she was setting (she likes to set for awhile before she goes to sleep) one egg was set aside. I wondered if maybe that was the one I had boiled. I left all of them just like she left them. She is still sleeping this morning so soon I will awake her and my keet and clean them and water them and watch how it all goes today. She definitely is in the "brooding"/"setting mode for sure. It really has been a joy for me to watch this all take "flight", even though I really was scared when I realized what was happening. I hope this will just be a fall and spring thing, but we shall see. I will continue to feed her well. We have a strong bond already and I've only had her 3 months. When I saw her in the pet store, my heart just melted and I had to take her home with me. I really hoped she was a hen, because I love ALL tiels, but hens are my favorite. But I never dreamed she would be laying eggs.

    I'll post when the next egg arrives. Don't know how many we will end up with. Have a blessed day!

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    Yeah hens are really special and I would always want to have one, just like I like the males for different reasons. Jaspa likes resting her beak next to my face and having snuggles. Its amazing having the bond in just 3 months - I've had Jaspa nearly 9 years now and we've been through thick and thin together over the years.

    I tried looking for kale at the veggie shop today but coudnt see any.

    I visited a bird shop today and bought a few things - and we were looking at a large cage suitable for a conure that tiels could use to go outside in - a bit more room for them. Might get it for Christmas. I'm actually ordering one of those wingdow perches for Christmas - Jaspa (and Gabi did) loves sitting on my arm and looking out the window at the trees. Actually it was a beautiful sunny day here yesterday so Jaspa was outside in her cage for a couple of hours but I have to sit with her otherwise she calls out - had a few wasted hours when I was meant to be doing cleaning but read my new Birdtalk mag! It was nice for her though - she loved watching all the wild birds and listening to them. When my husband arrived home from work she got all excited so he was pleased as Gabi was more his 'mate'.

    Hope your weekend is going well and Ollie is happy with her eggs.

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    Actually have you got some pics of your fids?

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    Re: Ollie just laid her very first egg!!

    Hi! Egg number 4 is here. Ollie is just popping those eggs out like a "pro"! I live in the midwest (USA), so our weather here is a typical seasons. Right now we are about to enter into Fall, a beautiful time of the year when temps are cool in the a.m. and very nice during the day. Just finishing up a very hot summer. (thank God for air conditioners). Then of course Winter will be here about the time of Thanksgiving. Our winters are very intent. Last year we had a blizzard that dumped 15 inches of snow on us within about 8 hours. No one was able to go any place for a few days. I've lived in this area of the country my whole life, and the last 10 years or so have brought real climate change to us. When I was a child, living on the farm, we had very intent winters, but for many years they moderated so it was a livable situation. Now we are back to very, very hot summers, sometimes very dry, and sometimes very wet. No in between. We don't have much Spring weather, it just moves right into HOT weather, and the Fall is never long enough.

    I am in the process of shopping for a digital camera. So when I get it, I will proceed to put some pics on the forum so everyone can see my beautiful Ollie! In the meantime we are "hanging in there" with this little "project" we have going at our house. Right now she is nesting. Kale is of the cabbage family. You might find it in that area of the store. It is a very close match to swiss chard! Don't you just LOVE to shop in those Pet Stores!! Now if I were "rich" I'd be bringing home "stuff", that I'm most certainly sure I can do without!! LOL

    Awwww! Jasper is sooooooooooooooo adorable! I don't care what anyone says, tiels are just heartwarming "buddies" to us! I'll keep you posted. Have a blessed day!

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