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    Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    This is difficult for me to write...I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this disease? I got sick a year ago in April with a serious case of bronchitis and was hospitalized. I've been hospitalized 3 or 4 times since then with acute respiratory failure. I've seen a pulmonologist, who told me that I have copd. I have seen an allergist/asthma specialist who said that it was asthma. But I knew what the problem was...I stopped seeing them both. At the time I had 3 parakeets and 3 cockatiels. I ended up turning to my breeder out of desperation, because I suspected it was my birds. Especially after one trip to the ER and a doctor told me that this was allergy related and asked me if i had a cat. My allergist tested me and i did have a reaction for the parakeets, but not the cockatiels...not that you need to be allergic to them because of all the dander they put out. My breeder said that she has had several friends come down with this "bird fanciers disease" and have to get rid of every bird they had. I did give my parakeets away, and I haven't been to the ER since, which is a huge improvement. But I will not give my cockatiels away. I can't. Two were adopted and i swore this would be their forever home, and it will. The other two are my children. I could no sooner give my males away than I could my own children. But I've tried everything. I have an air purifier...I still wake up every night and have to use my nebullizer. I stay on prednisone, which isn't good. Any advice?????? I'm pretty desperate. Thanks!

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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    btw..this all started 7 months after I got my two parakeets and 4 months after i got my 'tiels. and it came on all of a sudden and severely.

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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    I have no advice for you really because honestly I do not think you can do anything to help stop them from bothering your lungs. I would be heartbroken knowing the pets I love like family were causing my body so much grief.

    I got to wonder if possibly giving them a good misting everyday would help keep down the dander and dust? Or maybe you can keep the doors closed to all the rooms that the birds do not go into so it least those parts of the house will be clear of what is bothering you. Especially in your bedroom because you do tend to stay in your room the longest while you sleep. Taking prednisone is just horrible for your body so I really do hope you can figure out a way for you to stay healthy and for your birds to stay with you.
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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    Recently, we had another poster who shared that a person in their family was diagnosed with something similar to what you are now battling.

    I did not know parakeets would ever have that much dander to cause a challenge like this. I do know that cockatiels have a "white dust", which is more like a powder.

    Did your Doctors give any indication that your lungs were compromised as a result of smoking cigarettes or other tobacco products. Have you been a smoker in the past? The reason I ask this question is that perhaps your lungs were weakened from the smoking and therefore the dander and cockatiel dust affected you as it did.

    Would you ever consider getting a big aviary, such as we see in pet stores, that would be "glass enclosed", rather than having your birds in a cage? Perhaps the glass closing would keep the dust and dander from your lungs. I have seen these aviaries in places like nursing homes where they have an activity room or a sitting room for the residents to watch the birds. I don't have any idea what the cost would be, and I would say you would need to talk with your bird breeder to find out if something like a glass enclosed aviary would work in a home, and how to ventilate air into it so the birds would not die.

    Have you considered going to a holistic doctor, or a doctor that treats diseases and other illnesses without prescription medications? Those doctors practice "integrative medicine". They are well represented in the USA. I am a person that does natural and holistic treatments because I have had too many reactions to prescription medications over the years.

    Another suggestion is to use essential oils. Now, I have to say that you have to use them "very carefully", when you have birds in the home. You would not want to put them in a diffuser or in a warm oil pot or candle warmer. But, I am wondering if your birds sleep in another room other than your bedroom at night, and you cover them for the night, if you could try using some essential oils at night to help you breath and sleep. Just yesterday I was doing some research on them, because I am a person who has allergies from the Spring trees, pollen, etc. etc.

    I found that lavender, peppermint and lemon essential oils are good for allergies. I read that you can put a few drops on the bottom of your feet at night, as well as behind your ears and also under your arm pits. If you keep your bedroom door shut at night, or at least put the birds at a distance from your bedroom, and cover them securely with a throw or blanket at night, I would not think they would inhale the vapors.

    Also, here is a vitamin supplement that is excellent for allergies. The name of the company is: Soloray. The name of the vitamin is: QBC Plex. The ingreidents are Vitamin C, Quercitin, and Bromalain. Bromalain is pineapple. Quercitin is a supplement as well as the Vitamin C. I would take two a day as directed. They help me so much during allergy challenges. And also, begin to eat some fresh pineapple, or canned pineapple. It has the bromalain in it. You can order these vitamins on Amazon. And also, I would suggest you try a Mega Food Vitamin. Mega Food Company is a company that is a whole food vitamin company. They have an EXCELLENT one a day vitamin. I must tell you they are expensive, but they DO work. You take one a day. There are no synthetics in them. I am a person that truly believes in vitamins if they are food based and the company has a good reputation. You also can find Mega Food One A Day Vitamins on Amazon.

    Also, since the air purifier does not work, try using a "cool air" humidifier. The cool air humidifiers do not produce warm water. But they put moisture into the air. I also have learned my allergies will kick up during very dry, hot weather. OR dry weather that we have even in the cold winters here in the midwest.

    I also would do some research on line concerning a diet to be eaten for those who have fanciers disease. I would think you could find something on-line.

    I am so sorry you have to deal with this challenge. All of us have plenty of things on our plate without unexpected challenges that come into our lives. I hope this information is helpful to you, and welcome to the community, keep coming back, and let us know how things go for you and if any of the recommendations we shared are of help to you.
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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    Yeah, I keep them confined to my bedroom and with an air purifier and I started sleeping in another room. I have to keep them with either my husband or I at night because my males have night frights with such frequency. We had a terrible one this weekend. I thought my male baby was gonna die! It was horrible! But I would love to try some of the oils. Where do you buy these from? Thanks for the advice. I will certainly keep you posted, if it doesn't kill me!

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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    Edens Garden and Plant Therapy are both good brands of Essential oils. There are couple of companies who are big multi-level marketing companies that sell Essential oils and they say they are the best but they are overpriced because they charge ridiculous prices so they can pay all the agents who sell them. The two big ones I know of is Young Living and doTERRA and I found that I actually prefer Edens Garden just because it is much less priced then either of these for basically the same product.
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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    Deanna is totally correct. You can get many brands on Amazon, and they do sell Edens Garden.

    Do you cover your birds at night. And do you leave a night light for them? Both will help to tamp down night frights somewhat. When covering, cover three sides and 1/2 of the front side so they can see the night light in the room. Sometimes there are noises from outside that scare them. Animals, or even loud noises like trains, can do it. Night frights really are dangerous, because if we can't get them settled down, they definitely can get injured.

    You can buy Edens Garden and other brands on Amazon on-line. And also, I feel you could go to a health food store, and get essential oils. I don't know what brands they would have, but most health food stores have great products. Sometimes there are oils that are combined together. See if you can find one that is "Breathe". There are several of those on Amazon. They have similar ingredients to what I shared.

    If your air purifier has an "ionizer", I would turn that off and not use it around birds.

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    Re: Bird fanciers disease? or bird breeders lung...this sucks.

    You can now buy Eden's Garden off of there website and they do not charge any shipping fees like Amazon does. They just started to not charge the shipping fees a few weeks ago which is great because it really does save you money. Like Ellen said you got to be careful about using them around your birds because they are very sensitive to odors. If you have facebook this a great site to learn about them and to ask specific questions, *NEW* Using Essential Oils Safely Facebook Group. The same girl who has the facebook page also has a website here, http://www.usingeossafely.com/ There are many oils you can use to help you breath but you would really need to look at lots of them and possibly try lots of them to figure out what would work best for you.
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