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    Re: Possible causes?

    Thank you for your reply, I will check your previous posts too.

    I've been keeping Terry a little more in my room to "study" him. Every time I saw him almost trying to groom excessively I would tell him "no" a few times to distract him until he chose not to mess with his plumage. It worked for as long as I was with him. I have been trying to distract him with my voice a lot and whistles and it's okay for now but since the weekend is over and I can't be home for half the morning, I can't do that the rest of the days.

    Now, about vets. I don't think you guys understand what it is like where I live-not just my city, the whole country. There are very very very few avian vets and half of them work for wildlife centers which means they don't accept pets as patients. In my city, there are a few general vets but everyone I've asked so far about birds was like "eh it's a bird you can't do much". The mentality here concerning burds and especially small ones is very much like that not only among vets but the general public too.

    And just so you know my experience with general vets and birds, I had a finch that got attacked by an owl while he was sleeping in his cage outside in a relatively protected balcony. The owl almost cut his left leg completely and he was bitten on his left side. I gave him some painkillers and checked his temperature and tried to clean the wound and save his leg using bandages. I think he made it a day like that and we decided to take him to the vet. Well all he did was cut his leg off and put a gauze on his wound. I had already done more than him on my own, feeding him with a syringe and giving him water. Honestly, I think I could have kept him alive a little longer on my own and I was 15 with no experience with birds and this kind of incidents. So yeah, I am a little cautious with vets ever since. I don't want to take my bird for a check up and end up with a one-legged one.

    Unfortunately, vets here don't have websites usually either. That's why I've been searching all over the internet for help. I only know how to take care of birds like canaries, finches, magpied, blackbirds and the occasional bee-eater. Parrots are very different and have more "problems" than any wild bird I've ever encountered. And all the information I can find is from the internet.

    The online vet didn't really help. The only answer I got was that some birds live in cages from such a young age that they never learn how to fly. Which covers like...1/8th of my question and not the causes so much.

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    Re: Possible causes?

    Tikki's vet told us the red palm oil softens there skin and helps grow there feathers in easily. Tikki started barbing his wing feathers when he was molting so his vet is guessing it was causing him grief with the molt and the red palm oil helps there skin and makes it easier for the feathers to grow in. Also giving them a little bit of the gel center in a aloe leaf is good for there skin as well, just be sure you get all the yellow juice out of it because that is not good at all for birds. They do not recommend you spraying Aloe or any other things on there feathers anymore because they found out it was giving birds respiratory infections because they were breathing into the there nostrils. Sadly once they start doing things to there feathers it becomes habit really fast and the only thing that will stop them from doing it is putting on a cone. With Tikki it is not hurting him to barb his feathers so my daughter and the vet chose not to collar him. I would be very nervous putting anything on a birds feather because they really are so tender that too many things can kill them.

    Tikki is not a bored bird at all. He has a massive cage with all kinds of fun toys and he also gets to fly free and hang out with his "people" all the time.

    I am sorry you cannot see a avian vet and understand how you want to try things to try to help your birds but please be very careful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicky_1998 View Post
    Yeah I saw that about the red palm oil...But how can it make a difference if he keeps chewing his feathers?

    I read that someone dissolved some mustard in some water and sprayed the feathers and the bird stopped that bad habit completely but I'm not sure if it's okay for parrots to eat mustard...Maybe if it's that small of an amount it's okay but I don't want to test it and see. I could use something like these things you put on dogs after surgeries so they don't lick the scar...But maybe that's taking it too far?
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    Re: Possible causes?

    I'm so sorry Vicky about the vet situation over there. It is definitely hard when you feel like your on your own. Even though we have so many vets around where I am they only specialise in cats and dogs and just big animals mostly. We were told one vet right in my town was the best bird one around but even he could not hold my little bird properly, seemed afraid. But this vet also sometimes sees larger birds like macaws or larger wild ones too. But I don't really trust them if they cannot even hold my teeny tiny bird properly. I'm thankful I found the vet 20 minutes away but at the same time I wish there was more around. I blame the owners of the practices, why do they just keep hiring the same kinds of people, they should hire varieties of people who have varieties of animal knowledge and not just the same knowledge.

    I hate that mentality that its a bird you cant do much, These beautiful creatures have more rights to this earth than us humans and deserve love and care and safety.

    We have a pet shop around 20 minutes away and the owner of the shop breeds her own birds and all kinds from small to larger and even though she does have products for all other animals like cats, dogs, horses etc she actually has more for birds and she is extremely knowledgeable on them, she knows what to do in an emergency, and how a bird will heal if they have a cut etc, a lot of the time we just ask her questions when we go there to get more toys or seeds etc. It's hard to manage when there aren't vets around but having basic knowledge is definitely useful, but if it comes to any internal diseases it would be hard to tell if that was the case with a sick bird or not.

    It sounds like you did really well with your little finch and I'm so sorry the vet did what he did. When we wanted to remove a breeder ring off one of ours recently, the local vet wanted to put him under anaesthesia! A small tiny bird, only because they were probably too scared to handle him, and this one isn't even a biter! The good vet 20 minutes away got the job done in under a minute without any medicines.

    Which online vet did you enquire with?? Was it from the website "answers.com" or something like that? I'll double check which website it was that I found ages ago to check if that's the same one you used.

    This forum is a wonderful place, and even though we aren't vets, its definitely supportive and sometimes someone will see your posts and may have had similar experiences and be able to provide insight. You are doing great though looking after your little Terry, keep doing what you do when you can, keeping him company, allowing to do things that make him happy and anything to distract from any feather plucking.

    Deanna, that's interesting about red palm oil, it has been mentioned a lot on these forums, and I think you or Ellen mentioned it to me at one time too, and if its been vet recommended it must be safe to use in small doses.

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    Re: Possible causes?

    The vet highly recommends it to us for Tikki and my daughter also gives a dab of it to her two dogs to help there coat and skin as well. It has to be organic red palm oil and since we have lots of awesome stores here that only sell organic foods and products it was easy to find here. Its also good for us people as well.
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