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    Help with sick budgie please

    Hi Guys I'm new to TailFeathers and new to owning budgies!
    I bought two budgies in late February, a male (sunny) and a female (winter). At first they were in the same cage but Sunny started bullying Winter (he's a vicious biter) so we separated them but whenever I take winter out of her cage she tries to fly to sunny but flies into the wall . I would let her in his cage but she has scaly face (which we're treating) plus she is always fluffed up and her vent feathers are blocked with poop (I clean it when I can) so I don't let her in his cage Cuz I don't want sunny to become sick aswell. I would take Winter to an avian vet but my Nanna said no because it is too expensive.

    Any advice as to what I can do to stop Winter from flying into walls and as to why she's sick. Please help
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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Personally, I think Winter is constipated and needs more water. If you are feeding pellets, they are dry foods, and budgies need to drink lots of water when eating pellets. The poop stuck on her bum indicates the need for more water. If you are feeding pellets only, you need to get parakeet seed and feed a mix of 20% pellets and 80% seeds. Also feed them some fresh leaf lettce, cilantro, and small pieces of whole wheat bread. I think you need to take a sterilized eyedropper, and give Winter some extra water every day, about three times a day. I think she will not be fluffed up if you follow this recommendation.

    Be sure to cover or remove any mirrors or pictures from the walls while she is out flying. And take her to a small room in your home and get her used to flying in a small room first. Then she can fly in a bigger room. Shut the door in the small room, and play with her, and get her used to you and flying out of cage.
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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Quote Originally Posted by maxollie View Post

    Be sure to cover or remove any mirrors or pictures from the walls while she is out flying. And take her to a small room in your home and get her used to flying in a small room first. Then she can fly in a bigger room. Shut the door in the small room, and play with her, and get her used to you and flying out of cage.
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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Quote Originally Posted by maxollie View Post
    Personally, I think Winter is constipated and needs more water. If you are feeding pellets, they are dry foods, and budgies need to drink lots of water when eating pellets. The poop stuck on her bum indicates the need for more water. If you are feeding pellets only, you need to get parakeet seed and feed a mix of 20% pellets and 80% seeds. Also feed them some fresh leaf lettce, cilantro, and small pieces of whole wheat bread.
    Thank you!!! Although when I put any fresh fruit/vegetables/herbs in her cage she doesn't touch them. I will try the bread and add some pellets though

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Also she is standing on her perch with one foot on the perch and one on the cage bar, often pressing her but up against the cage bars. Any ideas as to why Winter is doing this??

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    I would not start feeding her pellets. If she is already having poop problems, pellets will make it worse. Feed the seeds, and other foods I suggested. My reference to pellets was if you were feeding them to her already. She is better off with seeds only and the fresh foods.

    Take the fresh leaf lettuce and shred it in small pieces, and put some in a separate seed cup. Also chop the veggies in small pieces, add them to the lettuce in that cup, and sprinkle a few seeds over the top.

    Budgies and other birds do love veggies, but it takes time for them to try them. It will not happen over night, you just need to feed them every day. Soon, they will try them, and love them. Also, get some millet sprigs in a package, at the pet shop, and hang one in the cage, and also, take small pieces of the millet sprig, and scrape off the millet seeds and mix in with her seed mix. Millet is full of moisture, and will help the poops from being pasty

    Budgies are so fun to watch, and they do have some silly behaviors. What you describe she is doing, should not be a concern. My Marlee perches upside down on the top of the cage and sleeps!!
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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    OK thanks alot!!! I really love Winter and Sunny as they are my first ever pets and it upsets me to see her sick but hopefully she gets better. I will try to keep everyone updated. Thanks again

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    One more question: How much sleep does a budgie need. I cover their cages at 7 pm and uncover them at about 6:45 am but if I check on them at about 10:30 pm they are both wide awake! I am not sure if they are getting enough sleep.

    (Sorry if I ask a lot of questions. I just want them BOTH to be nice and healthy)

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Hi Lily, nice to meet you. Don't worry about asking too many questions, ask as many as you need as everyone on here is very happy to help out in anyway they can. If you have seen my posts, they are always so long full of questions and rambling

    I hope your little budgies will be ok. And I agree with not feeding pellets anymore. I have lovebirds and tried to give them pellets and they never touched it, they were solely on a seed diet, and slowly they became interested in vegetables too but it takes them time, I don't think mine even ate any vegetables until I'd had them over a month or so even though I was putting it into their cages each day. Now I have healthy birds who can't wait for their vegetables each morning and also remain on their seed diet, I feed mine cockatiel mixes, however since you have budgies a nice quality budgie mix would be good.

    I understand how you feel being your first pets ever, my birds are also my first pets ever, and I am always trying to make sure they are ok every second of the day. I've calmed down a bit now and let them be to enjoy their days but at first I was always checking for the best things for them etc. These forums are great for advice. I still always worry though but my mind is always at ease when they are chirping and screaming all day

    Is there any other kind of vet near you, and not a special avian one? Would they be cheaper? I do recommend if possible to take her to a vet, and it doesn't have to be avian if thats costly. I don't have any avian vet near me either, the nearest one is 4 hours away and honestly was quite rude on the phone when I tried to call. I have lots of vets locally but most specialise in cats and dogs and are also expensive, starting at a minimum of $60, but I managed to find one about 20 minutes away who isn't an avian specialist but does at least have basic knowledge of birds and she had been the most helpful out of all vets I have been to, and didn't cost $100s of dollars either, costed about $45 for a general check up (when I was concerned about one of my lovebirds not growing her flight feather and had feathers poking out of her), and another seperate visit costed $22 which was to remove a leg ring from one of my birds.

    Keep your eye on little Winter, and I'm glad also that you are already treating the scaliness too. With the sleeping, 12 hours is usually pretty good and in general what birdies need, especially as babies. Is it possible you startled them when checking on them at 10:30 or so at night? Sometimes I also hear my birds moving around and making little sounds during the night too. Sometime they just want to go and have a small snack and then go back to sleep, and sometimes maybe one will wake up and probably just make a chirp to make sure all the other birds are still there, and then everyone chirps back and this lasts like 10 seconds then its quiet again. I think its not something to worry about, but I'm sure Ellen, our lovely budgie owner and helper can clarify this.

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Thank you, Laila, for an excellent post. I had some time to do on line research on scaly face, and I do think you are going to need a Vet to help clear it, because from what I read, budgies will only get worse if not treated, and further, pet store over the counter items will not work in the long run. And they can die. I hope your Nana will allow you to take the two of them for an evaluation.

    Did you get these two budgies at the same pet store, at the same time? And were they in the same cage then? And who diagnosed the scaly face. I do have concern for Winter having this problem as well, because the article I read said this disease can also affect the bum area. And further you do not want their cages to be set close together. Quite honestly, scaly face, is mites, which are teeny tiny bugs, that burrow into the skin of budgies. They can travel to another cage. They would be as tiny as a grain of salt or pepper.

    I cover my two budgies at might. They sleep with me in my bedroom. I have a night light in my room. They do not play at night that I know of. You are giving them a good nights sleep. Mine go to bed about 7 pm, and are up in the morning about 9 am, but I am retired, so we do not have to get up early.

    Try to keep the cages a few feet apart, and do not let them be together at all, including flying free, until the mite problem is addressed by a vet.
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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    Quote Originally Posted by maxollie View Post
    Did you get these two budgies at the same pet store, at the same time? And were they in the same cage then? And who diagnosed the scaly face. I do have concern for Winter having this problem as well, because the article I read said this disease can also affect the bum area.
    Yes I got them at the same shop but they were in different cages and the cages were next to each other.
    Before Winter had scaly face I saw a picture of it and then when I noticed she had something wrong with her face I suspected scaly face as I recognised it from the picture and I showed my Nanna (she is a bird lover and used to own a big aviary with budgies and other birds) and agreed that it seemed like scaly face. I done some research and was 99% sure it was scaly face as she had all the symptoms. We went into a pet store and told the workers what it looked like and she agreed. We bought a treatment for it and it has been getting better and better. I also put the treatment on Sunny so if he does have it, it will go away.

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    Re: Help with sick budgie please

    As to scaly face on her butt there is nothing there (just a bit of poop!) but I gave her a bit of water with an eyedropper and there was less diarrhoea

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    Continue giving her some water each day. That may help her to not have those pasty poops. And further, the treatment you are giving for the scaly face could also be affecting the poops.
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    Also is it OK to put try and put a little bit of honey in her water? They occasionally get honey sticks for treats and they love it! Someone I know suggested it because if she like honey it might encourage her to drink more water.

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    A tiny bit would be ok. You also could put a little bit of apple juice in the water.
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