Is my Whiteface lutino also a cinnamon

[Rubyred]

Hi yesterday I was given beautiful whiteface lutino for mothers day we were told it is a girl and that she is 1 month out of the nest the parent birds are cock=looked normal grey and Hen =all white so assuming she is a white face lutino but she was very quick to jump back in the nest box so didn't get a good look at her.. our new baby has some tan tail feathers and flight feathers so wondering if she is cinnamon lutino or something like that or can lutino have some pale tan feathers?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and any reply's

Ps trying to figure out how to upload a pic

[maxollie]

You can post pics in your gallery. Click on gallery and it will instruct you how to upload pics. Or you can get a tiny pic on line account and upload them to this website. If I can see pics that will help me to make comments on the new baby! Congrats!! What an awesome Mother's Day present.

[Rubyred]

thanks i have just added pics of her to my album ive been trying to get a good pic of her flight feathers as she has a nice pale tan on part of them but she wont closes her wings when i get close.
She was aviary bred so im letting her adjust before i give her time out of her cage.
She has barring on her tail i was told that this mutation shouldn't have that and that's whats got me questioning if there may be another mutation as well in her

[maxollie]

She or he is totally beautiful! I did some on line research and in my view her mutation is...white face pied. Even though the tail feathers look light cinnamon or grey co!or, he or he is still considered to be white face pied. Do a Google search as follows: pictures of white face pied cockatiels. Also, do a google search for...white face pied cockatiel mutation. And also google National Cockatiel Society and read all about the white face pied cockatiel mutation.

White face !ike this one generally are not considered Lutino. If this bird had ruby read eyes he or she would be an albino, which is a white lutino

Perhaps the breeder would tell you what mutation the parents of your cockatiel are. I think white face are stunning looking birds.

The word pied means several different co!ors of feathers. Are the eyes black?

[Rubyred]

thanks Maxollie
the breeder was nice but not very helpful in terms of her mutation i believe they are his elderly fathers birds. his father told him she was a girl. the parents i didnt get a good look at but the cock looked like a normal wild type and the hen jumped in and out of the box as she was on eggs again but looked white the guy said her colors where almost the same as my girls. i had thought clear pied at one point but her nails are clear and her eyes are very dark they look black but in the sun i thought i caught a flash of very deep red

[maxollie]

You could have caught that dark ruby red! Time will tell! I do think you probably have a girl, but it is abit early as yet to tell. Girls are very docile and loving. Boys are very verbal, and more active. They also can mimic sounds, and whistle songs. All cockatiels are very intelligent. In a few weeks you should see different behaviors that should help to decide if you have a girl.

[Rubyred]

update
my baby now wolf whistles and seems to be making up his or her own little songs specially early in the mornings. he\she loves a good scratch and being out of the cage very affectionate and will fly around the house to follow me.
i have noticed a pale tan starting to show on the feathers on the wings and the flights and tail seem to have darkened the eyes too have changed the middle of the eye is defiantly black but i cant quite make up my mind what color the colored part of the eye is it seems to be between a brown and a greenish color

[maxollie]

Could you post a new picture?

[Rubyred]

hi Maxollie
sorry i have been busy only just had a chance to upload new pics of Snow today Snow really has a gorgeous personality and loves flying to people and having a good scratch

thanks Ruby

[maxollie]

Awww!!!! She is soooo beautiful!!!! I am sending her hugs!!!!! It is always difficult to judge pictures, when the eyes are a topic, because cameras often times do not pick up ruby red colors. I see the cinnamon colored feathers on her, including under the tail, even though they are very light color, and I also see her cheeks are very light color cinnamon color, and so are the few other feathers on her. So I do think she is a pied. I am so happy for you that you have her. Hens are so very loving, and docile.

I will do some more research on line. If I find anything else, I will post. On the pics the eyes are black, but, they could be ruby. Thanks for the update! Enjoy her, every single day!

[Rubyred]

thanks for your replies Maxollie .

Snow as we decided to name her/Him has changed some of the feathers have darkened to a very pale silvery grey maybe cinnamon and looks maybe pied, the longer tale feathers are a darker grey. still has tail bars and light wing spots. personality wise we are getting the bat wings when shes bored or wants to get out her cage but she/he is also doing heart wings for my son and sings to him and I am sure i heard her say scratch. if the breeder was telling me the trurth about age she would be 7 or 8 months old now i have uploaded some new pics

[maxollie]

Awww!! I am thinking Snow could be a boy! Those heart wings, bat wings, and singing to your son, and saying scratch, sure sounds like it to me.The feather colors are beautiful. I think he is a white face cinnamon pied.

Do a Google search for....National Cockatiel Society, and also Austrailian Cockatiel Society. Both web sites have great info on each mutation, and you can get a good idea of the mutation chain..

I think his or her name is perfect! You are blessed to have found such a beauty! We will welcome your updates and pics anytime! Have a wonderful journey with Snow!!!!

[Rubyred]

thanks
i do believe i was lucky with Snow being an Avery teil and taming so easily
i love the Australian cockatiel society web site so much info, i kind of get obsessed and need to know all the workings of things Ive been driving my husband nuts with recessive and sex linked mutation info lol,
thank you so much for your help

my next birds will be rainbow budgies and love birds i just need to convince my husband that i REALLY NEED an aviary lol

[Rubyred]

Snow is defiantly talking were getting a couple of pretty clear words and he or she now has this really bad fake laugh when he plays with my youngest who she seems to have a bit of a crush on lol... I managed to get a pic of snows eyes showing pink but it was an accident when taking pics with my new additions... My feather babies now out number my human babies lol

[maxollie]

Yaaay!! That is so awesome! Cockatiels are people birds, they especially love kids and kids voices. My tiel, Penny, a boy, and Muffin, a boy, love to watch a TV channel here, which is oriented towards children. You may have heard of Sesame Street! That show is their favorite.

It is always amazing what sounds or words they learn. I know so well the feelings you have for your feathered babies. The journey is sooooo worth having them! Thanks for the update. We look forward to more updates anytime.