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    Question Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm very new to having birds and newer to the forum so not sure what i'm doing with either. I have only had my Red Crowned Kakarikis a few months, they are indoor birds, and was very surprised when they started to mate and even more surprised on Thursday when Coco laid her first egg. Thankfully I had purchased 1 breeding box when we first saw them mating and it was up and ready, even though I honestly didn't expect her to lay any eggs. Now I'm stressing because I haven't a clue what to do. She seems quite happy, she's laid her 2nd egg, she stays in her box all day and comes out at night for a fly about. I know to start the countdown (21 days) after her 3rd egg (should be tomorrow) so she is due 23rd December (lovely Christmas pressie for us all).

    What I really want to know is should I be entering their cage, (I would never enter her nest), after they are born to change water/food, or should I put plenty of tubs in prior to her due date? And if I shouldn't be going near them at first, how long before I can change their water/food?

    We were going away for a few days over New Year, leaving my eldest at home, who doesn't like birds - he would be fine to change food/water etc but not to let them out - do you all think it would be ok to fill up and leave enough food/water for 3 days, or do you think they will still need to be let out every night for a good fly about?

    Also, should I have another breeding box on the ready, as I believe after 2 weeks the cock takes over feeding the chicks, while the hen starts to make another nest ready to lay another clutch of eggs?

    Like I said, I'm very new at this, didn't buy the birds for breeding, just as pets, so feel a bit thrown in at the deep end now I'm going to be a Granny! Hope you can help

    Thank you.


    UPDATE: I'm a Granny!!!! Coco laid 10 eggs and the first has just hatched today 23.12.19, any ideas as to how long it should take for them all to hatch? I darn't even peep in to the nest but I can hear little cheepy sounds so know there's one in there.
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    Re: Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Hi, Debbie, and welcome to the community. Here is my view. I would not disturb the nest at all as she lays her eggs. One thing you could do, at about two weeks from now, would be to candle the eggs. You take a pen flash light to look into the egg shell to see if there are tiny red veins in the eggs, as well as an embyro. Quite honestly, you do run the risk of the hen abandoning her eggs, if you disturb the nest, and if it were me, I would not candle, but trust all will be well with the eggs, and allow the incubation time to move forward.

    And,if it were me, when the eggs hatch, I would allow parents to feed and take care of them, unless you see the parents being aggressive with the babies, or they are not feeding them. On occasion, a parent will pick on a baby. If that happens, you should remove the parent (usually it is the dad), and let mom feed them, but you should then get baby bird formula and help the mom feed. Because dad is very valuable in helping feed the babies.
    You can get the powdered baby bird formula food in a can at the pet shop. Also pick up a syringe. Go on YouTube, and search for..handfeeding baby Kakarikis. There are great videos there on feeding baby birds. Most any baby parrot would work, if there are no Kakarikis there.

    You can begin hand socializing the babies at about 3-4 weeks, one at a time, for a short while, then putting baby back in the nest. If mom or dad is very protective of them, then, it will be best to socialize them after they have fledged and are perching.

    Mom and dad will be very protective of the babies. However, after 2-3 weeks, or whenever you prefer, it will be OK to clean the nest abit, but be careful of rearranging the nest, and only handle babies a short time when you clean. If parents resist, then do not clean, until the babies are abit older.

    Your main goal is to let Nature take its course when at all possible. We will watch for your updates! I hope all will go well for the process.
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    Re: Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Thank you Ellen. Coco has laid 10 eggs and the first has hatched today. Not sure how long for them all to hatch, but im leaving them well alone, might try a little peek in a few days, but the tiny chirping sounds are very encouraging. I'm finally a granny lol

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    Re: Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Awww!! Congrats, Granny!!!! There is nothing more exciting than to hear those first peeps of the baby. The eggs should hatch every other day. I sm thinking with ten babies to feed, if the eggs all hatch, you may have to step in and handfeed the babies, to help them along, because 10 babies are a very heavy load for parents to feed. If it were me, I would go to pet shop, and pick up a can of baby bird formula, and a plastic syringe and be ready to feed the babies, one at a time, about twice a day for starters, if you see that any baby is very, hungry, or that it is not "pink" in color of skin. They can starve very fast. I would take one out of the box at a time, feed it, and return to nest.

    I know I wrote about not disturbing the nest, but with 10 babies, the parents may not be able to feed as they should. The baby formula will help them to get a good start. I would observe all of them carefully. Do some research on line, searching...how often to hand feed baby birds who are still being fed by their parents.
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    Re: Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Quote Originally Posted by maxollie View Post
    Awww!! Congrats, Granny!!!! There is nothing more exciting than to hear those first peeps of the baby. The eggs should hatch every other day. I sm thinking with ten babies to feed, if the eggs all hatch, you may have to step in and handfeed the babies, to help them along, because 10 babies are a very heavy load for parents to feed. If it were me, I would go to pet shop, and pick up a can of baby bird formula, and a plastic syringe and be ready to feed the babies, one at a time, about twice a day for starters, if you see that any baby is very, hungry, or that it is not "pink" in color of skin. They can starve very fast. I would take one out of the box at a time, feed it, and return to nest.

    I know I wrote about not disturbing the nest, but with 10 babies, the parents may not be able to feed as they should. The baby formula will help them to get a good start. I would observe all of them carefully. Do some research on line, searching...how often to hand feed baby birds who are still being fed by their parents.
    Thanks Ellen, I'd not thought about her having to feed so many, she's got 4 babies at minute and all very pink, she seems to be coping well, comes out and feeds from the male, then goes in and feeds the babies, they don't seem to be starving as only hear them a couple times a day. Will pick up some baby formula as soon as i can, have a friend who is hand rearing baby blue kakarikis so will ask her how she's been seeing to them... thank you for your advice, nice to get it from those that know, when your a novice lol x

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    Re: Kakariki Newborn Help - when can you enter cage to change food/water?

    Sounds like mom is doing great with feeding. Some hens are very mature, and take feeding very seriously, and on occasion, for whatever reason, which we really do not have an answer, some just are not capable of handling feedings, no matter how many babies they have. As long as you see them pink in color, and only hear them a couple of times a day, that is awesome, and she just very well may be able to feed all the hatchlings. You will know by observing her and the babies.

    It is perfect that you have a friend who knows all about handfeeding. I know she will help you out, if need be.

    We will watch for updates!! Happy New Year, Granny! You are in for a very happy 2020 birdy journey! Those babies will be sooooo fun to watch grow and thrive! We call them "our fids"! :
    Last edited by maxollie; 12-30-2019 at 09:52 AM.

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