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    Mutation ID please

    What blue series Peachfaced is this? TIA


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    Re: Mutation ID please

    Hello Mark, it's an Aquaturquoise.

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    In the U.S., this bird would be classed as a "Turquoise". It is a Parblue, not Blue. 🙂

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    TIM! I'm so glad you responded! I had feared you were no longer active on this forum. You helped me out a few years ago when I first started breeding Lovebirds and you were the first one who taught me about Parblue series (I got lazy and just typed Blue before haha)

    I have found there is a lot of confusion and contention with identifying Parblue series Peach-Faced Lovebirds. On another fb page i was trying to explain that this bird is a Turquoise going by the genetics of the parents. I said:

    "The parents are both visual normal Green and have so far produced the following offspring: normal Green, Pablue series (the bird in question) and a Green series Pallid. As Pallid is a sex link mutation and the female is not visual, I can deduce the male is a normal Green, split to Green series Pallid. This implies the female is therefore a normal Green, split to a Parblue series. As only one Parblue allele is present it can only be an Aqua or a Turquoise but fits the bill for a Turquoise given the colour of the brow and beak"

    Is this correct, Tim? Specifically the male's genetics or could he still be a carrier of Parblue?


    Also, would you agree this is an AquaTurquoise?
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    Thanks Tim!

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    I thought I knew your screen name from a while back! I just happened to stop by here last night. I haven't been here for a while.

    Labeling a Parblue to AQUA, AQUA-TURQUOISE, or TURQUOISE can be crazy! I personally wish there was only one word to describe them all. I think they only broke it down for judging in shows to be honest. Otherwise, what coloration would be judged the ideal Parblue? Plus different organizations classify them differently. That last bird you posted in your reply would still be considered a Turquoise because of having no yellow at the end of the beak. But the coloration is very Aqua-Turquoise for sure. That's a pretty bird.

    As for your Green parents...
    Parblue is a recessive mutation. For two Greens to produce a Parblue, BOTH parents would have to be split Parblue.
    And you are correct on the Pallid...
    With neither parent displaying Pallid and to produce a Pallid baby, Dad would have to be split Pallid. 🙂

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    Parblue are a nightmare haha! Thanks for your input though- much appreciated!

    While I have you here: Do you know if a single clutch of eggs can have 2 separate fathers? i.e. a female lays 4 eggs and 2 belong to one male and the other 2 belong to another male? is this possible?

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    I ask because Iím still confused how I got normal Green, Turquoise and a Green series Pallid all the in the same clutch when the parents are both visual Greens....Both parents have to be split to Parblue to produce a Parblue bub??

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    Whoever fertilized the egg is the father. If there's more than one male in with the female, then of course it's possible that the clutch could have multiple father's.
    Are there multiple males that have access to the female who laid the eggs?

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    Re: Mutation ID please

    Yes, there are other males in the aviary. She gets looked after by 2 males so itís a strong possibility itís a mixed clutch.

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